The Mystery of The Disappearing Dick

Name: Alexis
Age: 21
State: Georgia
Question: I’ve been talking to this guy for about a week and things were going great until he ask for “pics” of me. Our conversations were really good up until that point, I told him I don’t do that, but he kept asking. Prior to that he was telling me what he wanted to do to me. Then he sent me a “pic” and I told him what I thought about it. The other night he asked again about the pictures because he said “just one to get me off” so I told him “there are millions of other pictures that can get you off” he said that he only wanted to look at me, which is sweet, but come on. Then i just finally snapped. I told him it’s late and I’m not taking any pics. Now ever since that little conversation we haven’t been talking as much. He used to text all the time and now nothing. So now I’m thinking of that old saying “what one won’t another will”. I think since I didn’t send them he had someone else do it. He claimed he wanted something real, but what his actions are telling me a different story.

Was there a question here? It sounds like you solved the Mystery of The Disappearing Dick (Pic) all on your own. Boy meets girl. Boy talks sexy (or “sexy” since most men suck at this) in hopes of getting a woman all worked up. Girl jerks boy off via Skype or a cam or Ghat. And…scene. That’s all he wanted from the start. He wasn’t genuinely interested in you. He just was trying to get you to help him get off. He doesn’t even have to be attracted to you to do it.

I know that it sucks to have interesting conversations with someone thinking they genuinely liked talking to you. I’m sorry that you feel abandoned in some way. It’s not fun. I’ve been there, and it feels pretty cold and disappointing to get this attention and then have it taken away. All I can tell you is that this guy’s feelings or interest never changed, because it never existed in the first place. He likely had a few women he was communicating with and, yes, I’m sure one or two are giving him what he wants.

There are guys on these sites who will engage women strictly for the stroke material. They’ll feign all kinds of interest and say all sorts of disingenuous things. It’s kind of crushing when you learn the things they said weren’t real. Almost as crushing as believing that you had forged some semblance of a connection with someone only to find out it never truly existed. This is something that, admittedly, I have a hard time with.

I’ve met guys online that I really enjoyed chatting with and would absolutely have stayed friends with them if things didn’t take us to a romantic or physical place. Being someone who places a high importance on a certain level of social aptitude combined with being a person who works in a very non-traditional and somewhat self-isolating/intimidating niche, I do what I can to maintain some form of a relationship with anybody who “gets me.” I’ve spoken of my psychologist Ex. We still talk and occasionally hang out to this day. I enjoy having him in my life because he’s someone I can bounce ideas off of and discuss things that, for the most part, my friends either don’t really understand or care about. Someone who truly gets me or who is as fascinated by a certain topic as I am is a rare thing, and I tend to hold on to those connections.

You’re right that this guy never wanted anything real. A guy can be bored or looking for spank material and decide to engage someone he saw on a dating site. Some guys are just like that. That’s why, unless you’re comfortable making yourself that vulnerable, you need to stay away from having conversations that cross over into “too intimate” territory. You also can’t complain if a guy pesters you for sexy pictures if you sit there and involve yourself or indulge their attempt at naughty banter. That’s not to be confused with “flirty” banter. It’s not flirty. It’s a blatant attempt to get some form of sexual gratification. No man who is genuinely interested in you will go for that without meeting you.  In general, you should avoid any kind of sex/oooh this is what I want to do to you talk with someone you haven’t met for one reason. Because if you do meet and the chemistry isn’t there, you’ll feel really stupid. I did this once. Once was enough.

I was damn skippy sure the physical chemistry was a given. But it wasn’t.  I did not handle that situation well. The next day he apologized for making the situation worse than it had to be and admitted to contributing to it. He said I should learn to take rejection better. I clarified to him that the rejection wasn’t what made me angry. I’m a 40something year old, size 10 woman in Manhattan. I can handle rejection. It’s not like I can’t wrap my brain around it. The rejection stung, of course, especially since I wasn’t allowed the courtesy to process that privately. He decided to tell me while we were on the date. The angry reaction came from feeling as though I had been held hostage for 2 hours while he formulated an escape plan, a plan that involved showering me with compliments and then telling me I was too [insert positive attribute] to date. I felt that was insulting to my intelligence. The next day he shared that he took so long to tell me because he was hoping the attraction would materialize but it never did. Could be true. Probably wasn’t. Doesn’t much matter at this point. It was uncomfortable for both of us and was a good lesson learned: keep the expectations to a minimum. The higher the expectations, the more likely it is that you will be disappointed.

My purpose in telling you this, Alexis, is that you need to do what you can to avoid these kind of disappointment and embarrassment. Starting with disengaging from any conversation with someone you’ve met that takes on a sexual tone.

 

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Can You Find The Real Deal On An Online Dating Site?

Name: Clare
Age: 40
State: Belfast
Question: I recently met a man I really like on line, I have lots of other guys texting me but I get a real buzz when this guy does, he is funny and articulate and when he phones to speak to me we are on the phone for hours, but I have been separated now for 4 years. When I initially split with my husband I had met a guy online that I liked but was very needy and vulnerable and I frightened him off, I really don’t want to do that again.

He lives in another country, but as he is quite wealthy he has said he is going to come back here for a few months to spend some quality time with me, to see if there is anything behind what we have, when he went home he text  me within to days with his new mobile number to let me know he was back.

We didn’t sleep together as I’d met him on line and wasn’t comfortable about it and he respected that, but the more we got to know each other the better we get on. As I have been out of the dating game for so long, I’m not sure about anything any more, who texts first etc I really don’t want to appear as vulnerable, as I am a much stronger person now, but should we create mystery about ourselves, if so for how long? And is it possible to find the real deal on a dating site ?

 

Yes, I think it’s possible to find the real deal on a dating site. It just depends on what your definition of “the real deal” is. As I said last night in the comments, I’ve had a great deal of luck with online dating. But that’s mainly due to the fact that I’m not looking for long term commitment. I do a pretty good job of weeding out the time wasters. There’s the occasional gaffe, but they are very few and very far between. I have not had many of the stereotypical “bad online dates” we hear so much about on the internet. That’s only because I don’t go out with every guy who shows interest and know exactly what I want. I think people, especially people over 35, who join online dating sites looking for long-term commitment are going to be sorely disappointed. Long Term commitment no longer means moving in together or marriage. It means dating more than 6 months or so. Appropriate your expectations, learn how to filter and read people and embrace/understand your audience and you’ll have great success with online dating.

Unfortunately, I don’t this guy is the real deal. The wealthy man from another country schtick reeks of scammer or Man of Mystery type who flies around the world bedding women out of boredom. Since you admit that you are vulnerable, that cements my impression of this man even more. That is what these types specifically seek out. There are likely some clues to this vulnerability in your profile,too. If you have any mentions of being separated or unsure/hesitant in any way, that’s why draws men like this to you. As a commenter recently said, just because you and this guy got on well doesn’t mean he was actually interested in you. He was being polite. If he truly is wealthy and has the expendable cash flow to fly and meet you, I’m guessing he has just as many options a stone’s throw away from his WiFi spot. Therefore, why isn’t he dating one of those women if that’s what he actually wants? If he doesn’t have any options closer, then why?

Don’t fall into the trap of assuming that, because a guy stuck after he didn’t get sex, that means he’s “truly” interested. What else was he going to do? He was stuck somewhere unfamiliar and probably didn’t have anywhere else to go or anyone else to talk to. Trust me, he was hoping for and even expected sex. People don’t fly hundreds of miles for good conversation. I wouldn’t hold your breath hoping to see this guy again. He very well might text and chat with you, but you have dropped down the priority list.

As far as whether or not mystery is important, I say yes. That’s why you shouldn’t spend too much time communicating, flirting or otherwise “bonding” with someone you’ve only met online. It builds a false sense of security. It also makes you more vulnerable to those who might not be on the same page.  You’ll get too comfortable and share things you probably shouldn’t share, which leaves you open to being tricked or bamboozled.

Going forward, I would avoid the rich jet setter types who live far away. My instinct says that 50% of those men are looking for the low hanging fruit, and the other 50% can’t find a woman close to them due to a critical personality flaw.

 

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Is Having A Man The Only Thing You Care About?

Name: Princess Leia
Age: 25
State: TN
Question: How do I end up with a guy who only sees me as an option, for now? I met this incredible guy 5 years ago and he has told me he is not ready for a relationship because he is a musician but not the “typical” musician. We only talk a few times a week and see each other rarely. He is extremely attracted to me and I to him. And even though, he says he wants to see me soon all the time he doesn’t make plans to. I understand he is living it up right now and I give him his space because I don’t want to pressure him, but I really like him and I just want to know he will one day be mine. :)

Any feedback is appreciated!!

I’m not quite sure what, if anything, is going on between you two. It sounds to me like you’re a tad obsessed with a guy who, for the most part, isn’t all that interested in you.

Being attracted to someone and actually caring for them are two different things. This guy says he wants to see you but never makes the time. There’s your answer. Hon, you’re not even an option to this guy. You’re just some young girl with stars in her eyes.I don’t say that to hurt you. I say that to snap you out of this haze you appear to be in right now. He’s never going to be yours. You’re not giving him space. That’s your way of rationalizing the the situation. In order to give him space you’d actually have to be taking up space in his life. You’re not. This is kind of like when women go on about how they broke up with a guy when really they just finally took the hint that the guy wasn’t all that interested and left. Sure, you can say you broke up with him. But that’s not really what happened.

Here’s a question for you: don’t you want anything else out of life? I’m not sure what the hell is in the water in Tennessee that makes girls from there so, I don’t now, dependent on men and marriage and having a man. Maybe that’s all they groom your for down there. I don’t know. But I have yet to come across a twenty something girl from Tennessee/The South who didn’t seem to want much out of life other than a man.

Don’t you have any passions or interests? Why are you worried about a man being “yours” at 25 years old? You have everything ahead of you. Why throw all of that to the wayside just for a guy? A guy who can barely manage to see you, no less.

I guess what I hate to hear in the letter is how your life seems to revolve around this barely present male. To me that just seems wrong. He’s just a guy.  I sound crotchety and old, I know. But really, don’t you have a plan for yourself? If not, you should. Do you know why? Because in these times it’s really, really unwise to rely upon a relationship to fulfill you.

Let’s say you and Mr. Rock Star do get together. What then? Marriage? Kids? What? What’s your plan?  You can’t wait until you’re 35 years old to suddenly wake up and remember that you forgot to get a degree, or choose a career path, or develop an identity, or have kids. This is stuff you have to put into action now. You can’t sit back and wait for some semi-employed jug band leader to wake up and realize you’re The One. He has lots of Ones, hon. Lots. You are one of many, many Ones. You don’t see him trying to balance a career and a relationship, do you? No. He’s out there living his life. Not sure what kind of a life it is, but it’s his.

Where’s yours?

You want to be in a position where you get to choose which door to open and what path to take. That’s where he is right now. He’s unfettered and living his life. You don’t want to settle down because that’s what you’ve been told is what girls like you should do. You want to do it because you’ve had various experiences and now choose to sacrifice certain things. That way there’s less of a chance you’ll have regrets.

In 5 years you’re not going to even remember this guy. You’re not even going to be the same person. You’re going to change. At least I hope. The idea of some young girl latching on to a guy at your age makes me cringe because there’s a really good chance that is going to stunt her emotional development in crucial ways. Then she’ll end up divorced at 30 or 35 and complete, utterly lost.

The first thing you need to do is be sure you can take care of and support yourself. That’s what your twenties are for. You need to develop an identity and independence. Then you find the guy and settle down. Don’t get me wrong. If you’re life goal is to marry and have kids, that’s great. That’s as valid and important of a goal as wanting to get an MBA and run a business. However, in either case, you want to be sure that you can stand on your own first. The last thing you want is to tie everything – your life, your identity, your future – to someone who quite possibly won’t be around in the long run.

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The Player Sh*t Test: Does “Game” Really Work?

This morning I read a post over at Private Man’s blog.

The post offered advice to women on how to spot a player.

 

A man starts a conversation with a woman who is single….

The conversation continues and gets just a bit more personal. They find out what each person does for a living, how many kids they each have, where they each were born. The man then asks for the woman’s phone number or suggests that they go have a drink. The woman is secretly thrilled yet shows nothing. She should be thinking “This guy started the conversation, What if he’s a player? Maybe he’s one of these pick-up artists who just wants a sexual encounter and nothing more?”

To any woman who finds herself in this situation (and who doesn’t just want a sexual encounter), here’s what she must ask, verbatim:

“What if I told you I was seeing someone?”

A man of good character will back off. He might apologize. He might just say “too bad”. He might even compliment the hypothetical boyfriend as “lucky fellow.” Regardless, he’s respecting the woman’s current, if mythical, relationship. This guy is a keeper.

 

Here’s my first question. Am I the only one who would consider, upon hearing a line like “What if I told you I had a girlfriend/boyfriend?”, that the person was obviously testing me and would walk away?

I don’t know. For me, it’s that kind of stuff that makes me breathe a heavy sigh and go, “Next!”  There’s a fine line between being coy and smooth and being, well, dodgy. This, too me, feels dodgy.

Question two. If someone tells me they are “seeing someone” is that considered “being in a relationship?” Would it really be a sign that the woman or man is someone of ill repute if they tossed their hat in to that ring?

Finally, so what if he or she “just wanted a sexual encounter.” I mean, say no. Or say yes and maybe end up having a relationship. Are men really so terrified of being “used” in this way? I just don’t get it.

I look at Game like I look at The Rules. Or prayer. (Yes, I just said that.) They’re both used as a way for men and women to feel as though they are in control of a situation over which they actually have no control.

It’s like what we were saying last week about that article on how to get a boyfriend using online dating. Did all those things the woman did with her profile really help her find a guy? Or did she just happen to find a guy, and she thinks her approach therefore “worked?”

Does any of this stuff actually work? Or do we just think it does? And what are the metrics used to define “success?”

 

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The Power of Saying “Next!”

By the way, I’ve run across many guys’ profiles that state they hate winks and ask that women spend the time to email. The rest of their profiles are usually interesting and unique. What’s your take on these men? – 3 cents

I think those men are high maintenance attention whores. I don’t bother with them. I don’t have time for guys with Unique Little Snowflake Syndrome. If I’m taking the initiative, be grateful. A man who can’t appreciate a woman making the first move is not going to appreciate other things she does. Any guy who feels compelled to speak out and state explicitly in his profile that he won’t respond to XYZ is burnt out, frustrated or high maintenance. I have plenty of options. I don’t have to cater to someone like that. – Moxie

Seriously. Who would voluntary subject themselves to this Not every attractive guy/girl is someone you need to date. Move on! – DMN

 

I received an email a few nights ago from a man who attended one of our speeddating events about a month ago. Apparently, he contacted his two matches. One of them replied, one didn’t. He responded to the one woman who did reply, but she didn’t reply back.

He wrote me asking if I could contact these women to be sure his messages were received. Which I did. But neither of these women followed up with me. The guy was baffled. Why bother choosing him as a match if they weren’t going to reply? Was it something he said? I had no idea. What I did know was that it had been a month since the event and he was still wondering what went wrong instead of just saying, “Next!” and going to another event and meeting other women.

I was reading another article  a couple days ago. The author was talking about a guy she had met online. He was, in her words, “super-cute, funny and educated.” His texts were witty and entertaining and omigod he was just so cool. So the woman decides to call him in the middle of the text exchange. The guy didn’t answer. Instead, a few minutes later, he sent her a text and asked, “What’s up?” Thus begins the analysis part of the story. Why doesn’t he call, what’s his deal, etc.

How about…Next!

We keep talking about the shopping cart mentality that has developed in the dating scene due to an over-abundance of options. Yet, despite this mentality, we still manage to fixate on the ones that get away. We’re so quick to dismiss people because they only said “hi” in their email message or something equally frivolous. But we cling to the ones who make it abundantly clear they don’t want us.

I’ve come to enjoy the freedom and the sense of power that saying, “Next!” has given me. You suggest we meet that night for a drink, don’t follow up, and then text me two days later? Next! You display obvious signs of being emotionally dysfunctional in your emails? Next! It takes a village to get you to commit to a time and date to meet for a drink? Next!

Like I said to 3 cents above, I don’t have to tolerate the time wasters or the emotionally deficient. I don’t have to indulge some dude’s desire to be treated as a unique little snowflake. You can’t pick a time and date to meet? Next! You’re just not that into me? Next!

There’s always going to be somebody else. They might not be any better than the last person you met. But they are an option. And you have the ability to say yes or no. You can choose to engage or disengage.  There is nothing forcing you to go out with them other than the voice in your head that tells you that that person “might” be the one. News flash: That person is not viewing you in the same light. To that person you are likely nothing more than a source of attention. That’s why I said yesterday to bail from a situation where the person isn’t willing to set up a date as soon as their schedule allows. Many people get attached to someone just from text attention. It needs to stop. None of this back and forth emailing or texting. None of this scheduling and rescheduling.

The reason why people get so burnt out with online dating is because they spend too much time engaging the people that either have too many options, are emotionally crippled in some way or are just looking for people to add to their mobile Rolodex so they can get attention. These people probably make up about 50% of the online dating population. Within this segment are many, many people who have never developed the necessary skills required to relate to people in a healthy way. And it shows.

  • They can’t set up a date and stick to it
  • The cancel dates
  • They drop off the grid every few days
  • They take for ever to reply to texts
  • They are passive aggressive
  • They text or email but never commit to actually meeting

These people need to be ignored the minute they show signs of wasting your time. Don’t ask them to explain themselves, don’t look for reassurance. NEXT! That’s it. Clear the way for someone else. Stop listening to friends who have that urban legend tale about their friend Martha’s cousin and how she experienced the exact same thing and had a different outcome.  Forget about that episode of How I Met Your Mother where Barney, the notorious “player” , magically became whole because of the love of a woman. These people exist in fantasies.

 

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Women & Making The First Move

I was working with a female client yesterday reviewing her profile. One standard question I always ask people in their session is how proactive they are in contacting members. Most women say they do, but don’t seem thrilled about having to do it. This client yesterday told me she stopped contacting men because a coach she worked with recently told her not to. He said that, if a woman were to initiate contact with him on a dating site, he would assume something was wrong with her and would not consider her for anything other than sex.

I was horrified. Not just because his advice was beyond atrocious but because this woman clearly believed him.

What was really upsetting is that the woman never once stopped and considered what type of person would actually think the way this dating coach said many men think. Somebody who would wonder what was wrong with a person strictly because that person responded to their profile has obvious self-esteem issues of their own. Nobody with a healthy level of self-esteem would question that value or stability of someone else for showing interest in them.

I explained to her that advice like that was nonsense and used to exploit a woman’s vulnerability. And it is. It truly is. When dating online, the traditional gender roles need to be thrown out the window. That means that, sometimes, women need to make the first move. They also have to be smart about

In the online world, I think women not only should be assertive and initiate contact but have to. The men they want to meet, as opposed to the ones that contact them, are likely being pursued by other women. These guys don’t have to invest much time in to crafting emails and sending winks. They’re already being approached. If the goal is to meet people of a specific type, then everybody needs to be more proactive. If you’re not getting many, or any, responses then that person either isn’t interested, is already engaging someone else, or not eager to meet anyone. Don’t just assume it’s because they don’t find you attractive. Of course, if you’re constantly contacting people of a certain caliber, let’s say, and you get no responses, then it’s probably time to lower your standards a bit.My friend M. and I disagree on this. He thinks that women should only pick from the men that contact them. Obviously, this does offer quit a bit more security for the woman. Though it isn’t fail-proof. What women need to learn is to discern which guys have a bevvy of options and therefore will be more likely to either ignore them or just add them to a roster. Of course, that requires knowing what league you’re in and what you can feasibly pull. If you’re not getting certain types of men to approach you offline, then it’s unlikely you’ll have more success getting them to notice you online. Sad reality: If you’re in your late thirties or older, it’s sort of pointless to contact men your own age or younger if you’re looking for a serious relationship. Certainly throw your hat in to the ring, but don’t expect much. Those guys have way too many options and are naturally inclined to prioritize the younger women. (On a related topic, if you’re a woman and you want to  try speeddating, choose an event where you are in the lower half of the age range.)

In any case, there’s no time to just sit back and wait. Like we’ve said before, the online dating process has intensified things and sped everything up. You don’t want him? Someone else will take him. If you find something obscure about him that’s attractive, it’s guaranteed that another woman does as well. So get to steppin’.

Now, let’s talk about initiating the first move sexually. I’ve frequently stated that I believed that most men don’t judge women for having sex on the first date. I stand by that. However, and I’ve said this before, I do think men question a woman if she appear too comfortable with sleeping with a guy on the first date. It’s one thing to accept a guy’s invitation to “see you home” (my favorite) and then inviting him upstairs “for a drink.” Both parties know – or should know – that this is code for getting it on.  It’s another to flat out proposition a guy or suggest they take things back to her/his place. Not only is the woman making herself uncomfortably vulnerable, but she’s telegraphing to a man that she has done this before. In a casual situation, there’s nothing wrong with this. But if the woman is looking for more then she should let the guy think that the sexy time was his idea and she was just swept up in the moment. The guy wants to feel special, like there’s something unique about him that made this woman throw away the rules and risk everything just to be with him. Adorable!

I’m sure a lot of women might disagree and say that they’ve had “success” with being the sexual aggressor. In those cases, they’re usually equating “success” with “length of time.” Getting a man to sleep with you on a regular basis is not difficult. You and he may have never had any issues or conflict,and you may have mixed the sex with casual dates here and there. But you didn’t necessarily have a “long term relationship” with them. Not in the traditional sense, anyway. You had a relationship of some kind. But without the prerequisite sacrifice that we’ve discussed, it’s not a “real” relationship. The man’s hesitancy to take it to the next level could be because the woman was the one to make the sexual first move.  That’s not always the case, but it absolutely is a possibility. To pretend that it isn’t is being willfully ignorant and naive.

So, what do you all think? Should women take more initiative online? Do you agree that they should let the man make the first sexual move?

 

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Is Short Term Relationship The New Casual Sex?

Name: Bianka
State: California
Age: 32
Comment: Hi Moxie,

Two mo’s after ending an LTR, I met a 38 yo man from a post on a hook up site for drinks, which turned into dinner and then more drinks/dancing, thinking it would be a NSA situation.Three mo’s later, we’re still seeing each other once a week, dinner, drinks, a night on the town – that he insists on paying for. He refuses to meet up for just sex. Since meeting, we’ve texted every single day, he initiates half of these conversations. When we’re out we hold hands,he’ll hold my waist, etc. However, I’ve never been to his apartment (we meet on his boat). He says he doesnt mind if I do, but he’s moving out this month. He recently told me that he pays his ex’s rent still and she lives next door to him, because “he doesnt need a roomate”, but that is soon going to be over. He’s been single for about 3mos. He claims he hasn’t slept with her or anyone else (neither have I), which I believe just based on his schedule. I like him. I’m confused. Early on I asked him what our situation was and he got somewhat defensive, stating he didn’t want a relationship. Yet he acts like my bf when we’re together. When we’re not he texts me all the time just to see how my day is going. Last weekend he told me he would  take care of my cats when I’m traveling next week (an intimate gesture I think, esp. from a man who said he refuses to go over to people’s apartments). However, last time I saw him in an effort to “play it cool” I refered to myself as his f’ buddy. He got really mad. He said I wasn’t his girlfriend but I wasn’t his f buddy either. Ever since then he seems distant. Thoughts?

 

My thoughts are either that this guy is cheating on his wife or girlfriend OR he doesn’t have an apartment because his ex is currently living there. That’s why he meets you on his boat. Maybe they’re going through a rough patch or going through a trial separation. But this guy is most definitely not available in some way.

You two met on a hook up site. Not a mainstream dating website. So it’s clear what he’s looking for.  A once a week hook up. All the other stuff he’s doing – the texts, the hand holding, etc – is just part of the schtick. It’s to keep you distracted so you won’t figure out he’s probably a big fat liar. It’s maintenance.

He said I wasn’t his girlfriend but I wasn’t his f buddy either. Ever since then he seems distant. Thoughts?

He’s using that as an excuse to distance himself. Maybe his wife/girlfriend is getting suspicious, if that’s the case. Or maybe he’s just getting bored. Or maybe he and his Ex are working things out and he needs an excuse to cut things off.  Whatever his reason for “distancing himself” is based on a false image and lies. This is not a real relationship.This is a guy who is somehow separated from his girlfriend or wife who is looking for a little entertainment and taking advantage of his new found “single life.”

I guess what gets me is that you don’t seem to be questioning any aspect of his story. You’ve never seen his place, nor has he invited you to visit? That means he either has something to hide or doesn’t want you knowing where he lives or doesn’t want to incorporate you in to his life.

He pays his ex’s rent? Um. Why? More like she’s living in HIS apartment and that’s why he’s “paying her rent.” No. He’s paying his rent. She’s just the one living there.

You have to understand something:

Even if a casual situation involves activities or behavior that we typically attribute to “real” relationships, they’re still just casual relationships. This is the new casual sex.Plenty of people like to add on the accoutrements like dinner, dancing, affection, etc. It makes them feel better. It fills a void. They don’t want to just come over, have sex, and leave. (The old definition of casual sex.) They want the companionship and sense of intimacy. They just don’t want the commitment or obligation.

Just because someone says they’re not sleeping with anyone else doesn’t mean that that means you and that person are exclusive in some way. Somebody saying that they have no time to date/sleep with anyone else IS NOT saying, “You’re the only one for me. I’m not interested in meeting anyone else.  I don’t want to sleep with anyone else.”

 

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When It’s Okay To Be Low Hanging Fruit – Booty Call or Date?

SCENARIO #1

You’re at a party or a bar. You meet a guy. You chat and exchange numbers. You leave. He sends you a text that night and suggests you meet up for a drink. You say no, but would love to some other time. He continues to text you but never follows up with any further plans.

SCENARIO #2

You run in to a man you know on the street. You chat. A few hours later he sends you a text telling you how “hot” or “sexy” you looked and says you and he should meet up for a drink.

SCENARIO #3

You meet a man while out running errands or at a party or just generally anywhere. You chat and exchange numbers. A few hours later he sends you a message and suggests you meet up for a drink later that week.

Now…which of these three scenarios is an invitation on an actual date? If you said either 1 or 2, you’d be wrong. If you said 3, you’d be correct. Obviously.

Something that puzzles me is when women get all flustered when men in scenarios 1 & 2 don’t ask them out on a proper date, give them enough notice, call, confirm, etc. Know why they don’t do those things? Because they weren’t looking for a romantic evening of conversation or catching up. And the thing is, I’m pretty sure most women – especially women who have had their share of dates or casual sex – know it. They want the man to ask them out “properly” so they can justify going out with him in the first place. That way, when either the guy reveals his true motives and/or the woman does end up sleeping with him and the guy never calls again, he’s the bad guy. Then she can exclude herself from the “low hanging fruit” theory by saying she “made him work for it.”  Here’s the deal: If you respond to these sort of sleazy come on type solicitations in the first place, you are officially “low hanging fruit.”  Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to enjoy a night of cocktails and sex…as long as you know that’s all it is.  Trying to prod these guys in to offering a more polished invitation doesn’t change the fact that you would still go out with them if they asked properly.

Look. We know when  a guy is just looking for sex. Come on. We know.  You meet a guy online and he says he’s looking for something casual? He’s really just looking for a smash and grab. Should the mood strike him a few weeks later, he might text the woman again. But he’s not thinking any further than one night. Because, hey, if he can get ONE woman to sleep with him that easily, he can get MANY women to sleep with him that easily. So why stop at one?

But we want to feel special. We want to believe that these men want us. That there’s just something so electric about our vaginas that they just have. to. have us. They don’t have to. They choose to. These guys can send a flurry of texts messages out and at least one woman will respond. And that doesn’t necessarily mean the woman is desperate, either. Some women have no problem letting  a guy like this buy them a meal and cocktails, knowing she has no intention of putting out. Or maybe she does put out because she simply wants to and expects nothing. Maybe she’s bored. Or, sure, maybe she’s naive enough to believe  that man wants something more with her.  By collectively calling any woman who accepts an invitation that comes in this form desperate is really just a woman’s way of making herself feel better. Bottom line: You got in his address book somehow.

I’m sure it feels good to convince yourself that you outsmarted them somehow, but it’s a hollow victory. These guys don’t care if you say yes or no. If they had fewer options, or no options, well then they’d jump through whatever hoops necessary.  Some random dude you met at a party or online, or with whom you had some casual fling,  pulls out the stops to impress or cater to your whims before the first date? Beware. He’s either just looking to get laid, or he has very few options.

Lecturing men on these “silly” little tricks are pointless. Know why? Because they work. Trying to get someone to stop doing something that reaps them the benefits they want simply because they make you feel less valued is a waste of energy and emotion. They’re not going to stop. And even if they did decide to play by the rules you’ve created in your head, they’d still turn out to be looking for the same thing.

 

 

 

 

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