Is It Possible To Out-Grow a Partner?

Name: Lisa
Age: 24
State: New York
Question: So, I love my boyfriend, but we’re from two completely different backgrounds. I’m biracial and from a single-mother family and I know how to hustle. He’s from a nuclear, anglo-saxon family and is pursuing his passion of being a freelance/business-owner of his recording engineer studio.

I wouldn’t dare break up with him A) not because I fear being alone or B) because I’m annoyed/over it/out of love, but I’m having a hard time communicating my need to propel things forward. I don’t even believe in marriage, but in terms of moving in together, etc. He always seems like my urgency to talk about it is unwarranted and I don’t want to rush into anything at all, but if we’ve been together for 3 years (I’m 24 and he’s going to be 26 in June), when is it obvious that two people can’t communicate/work together/don’t have the same views and goals in life?

 

I think some people need to mark the progress of a relationship via gestures and milestones. Moving in together is a tangible thing you can point to so you can tell yourself that things are headed in a certain direction. I’m old school about living together. For me, living together means we plan on being together for a very, very long time. Maybe even permanently. Do you see that kind of future with this guy you’re dating? If not, then why be in such a rush?

You sound like you want the grand gesture just so you can prove to yourself (and probably some of your friends and family) that the relationship is going places and he’s not taking you for granted. At the same time you appear to be conflicted about you actually feel about him and the relationship.

I know a guy who, at 31, has already lived with 3 or 4 different women. (FYI? He cheated on his last two girlfriends a mere month or two after moving in with them.) For as long as I have known him he has always hopped from relationship to relationship, barely having a month or two of actually being single. He moves in with them at pretty much the same point in the relationship: around the 8 month mark. A couple of years ago he broke up with his GF of about 3 years, that he lived with for 2, and started dating someone 3 months later . She was almost 10 years younger than him and mere weeks out of her teens. A year later they were engaged. Now, everything about this situation seems like one collective red flag to me. That’s only because I know certain details. To the outside world, I bet people look at that and think it’s romantic and wonderful and wish those two kids all the luck in the world. Me? I see a guy who can’t be alone and who has a pretty flexible definition of commitment who was in a rush to lock something down before the girl matured and learned to know better.

If he is unwilling to have these conversations with you, then you either need to change your approach or accept that he does not feel the same urgency you do. Now, does that mean he doesn’t love you? Not necessarily. Not everybody feels the need to make it official, so to speak. It sounds to me like you do. My first suggestion is to really be honest with yourself about what you want and why. Do you need to prove something to yourself? Do you actually see long-term potential in this relationship? Despite what you say, do you fear being alone?

Signs of incompatibility having to do with goals and values and communication styles usually crop up pretty early on in a relationship. If this is the first time you’re actually noticing the potential incompatibility then it sounds like you and he have out grown each other.  In that scenario I mentioned above, I honestly believe the reason why he proposed to that girl when she was barely 21 was because he feared she’d eventually out-grow him. You started dating this guy when you were 21 or so. Now you’re approaching your mid-twenties.  What worked at 21 maybe doesn’t work at 24. What is it that you really want out of this relationship? More importantly…what do you want out of life? Does a relationship fit into that picture? These are the questions you need to ask yourself.

Sometimes it’s as simple as you and your partner are no longer compatible. Isn’t it better to determine this before you live together than after? Maybe you were on the same page once. Time has a way of changing things and changing people.

 

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Did He Get Cold Feet Or Was She Just Getting Too Serious?

Name: Shauna
Age: 29
State: NY
Question: Hit it off with a guy, met him through a mutual friend. Had great chemistry from the moment we met. He would want to see me all the time, hung out with him almost every other day for the first month. He even introduced me to his best friends, had great/fun times. Then one night he happens to go out partying with MY friends and I, so they naturally asked him- what he thought about me and if we were exclusive. And because I like him for his honesty, he replied to them saying- “I have only known her for a month, so I dont know yet.” 2 days later at dinner with just him and I, he decided to be “clear” and asked me if I knew that we weren’t exclusive, and that he wants to keep his options open (as we had already discussed when I first met him). Because we are both at that age, where we want to meet “the one” and settle down…Things were going great for a month in a half and after we had this dinner, his phonecalls became few and far between, texted very little, and I saw him probably twice going into the second month of dating him. I still get texts/phonecalls from him once/twice a week asking me how I’m doing/what I’m upto, etc. He even told me, that he is distancing himself because he does not want to be attached to me, because he came out of a long term relationship, and it hasn’t even been a year. Now given, the type of job he has- he does travel at least once a month. But this is the same guy that in the first month wanted to see me ALL THE TIME, and we had great fun! So my question is: Did he get cold feet? does he really like me? will he come back around? what should I do?

Then one night he happens to go out partying with MY friends and I, so they naturally asked him- what he thought about me and if we were exclusive

No, not “naturally.” That’s not what most people “naturally” do. We typically learn not to ask such personal or pointed questions about someone’s relationship in high school or even junior high. It’s rude and inappropriate. Before you go defending your friends for “looking out for you” let me clarify something. I don’t think your friends intentionally sabotaged you. In fact, I don’t even think your friends thought about you at all before they performed their little inquisition. They weren’t thinking of you. They were thinking of themselves, and now you’ve paid the price.The status of your relationship is none of your friend’s business, and you should be royally pissed that they would even ask such a question. That is, if you didn’t know they’re were going to ask. If you somehow got them to do your bidding, you screwed yourself.

The conversation with your gal pals made him wonder just what you’ve been telling them and what your expectations might be. That’s why he put on the breaks.

Because we are both at that age, where we want to meet “the one” and settle down..

I’m confused. I thought he said he wanted to keep his options open? How does that then translate into “we both want to meet the one?” Methinks you’re processing everything he says through your own filters. Just because you might have said to him that you’re looking for something serious or are ready for “the one” and he agreed doesn’t mean you’re on the same page. I’m sure he would like to meet “the one”…eventually. But not at this very moment. You heard what you wanted to hear, I’m guessing.

He even told me, that he is distancing himself because he does not want to be attached to me, because he came out of a long term relationship, and it hasn’t even been a year.

He doesn’t fear getting attached to you. Break-up, schmake-up. If a man meets someone that he really likes, he’s not distancing himself for fear of “getting too attached.” That’s female logic. That is either how you interpreted his words, as many women are wont to do, or that was his way of trying to tell you – without telling you – that you were just a pit stop.

This guy likes you. He just doesn’t want to be serious with you. He fears you were getting too attached. At this point, that is not what he wants. If he did want to be with you in any capacity other than casual, he would be. The fact that he introduced you to his friends and vice versa means nothing. Say it: it means nothing until it means everything.

A man who tells you he wants to keep his options open isn’t just being honest. He’s all but sending out a memo that says, “You’re not the one.” A smart guy who didn’t want to ruin a good thing would know NEVER to say something like that. You have to acknowledge something. This guy chose to enlighten you on how he feels. Most men wouldn’t do that. They’d just go along until it no longer worked for them. This guy didn’t do that. He made it a point to have a difficult conversation with you.

I would write this guy off as a loss. If he comes back around, he comes back around. Right now, he fears you’re going to want more than he’s interested in giving. Once a guy has that concern, there’s little any woman can do to alleviate him of that.

 

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Did Her FWB Intentionally Lead Her On?

Here’s an article that I thought would make for interesting discussion. Read it before you comment, por favor.

Read it? Okay. Let’s begin.(For the record, I am a big fan of Mandy. I love pretty much everything she writes. I just had an issue with this piece.)

 

I caught up to her. Pretty’s face looked ashen. “He said that he can’t see me anymore,” she said, obviously reeling from the double-whammy of not just the hurt of your dumping (only hours after sex, mind you) but the embarrassment of having just been telling me how different and wonderful you were when I bugged her for all the details. Then she told me what you said on the phone: “There was another girl — and he wants to see her more seriously.”

“And?” I asked.

“And I need to smoke like five cigarettes in a row right now. That’s what,” she said.

Here’s the thing. My friend Pretty knew your relationship was mostly just about sex, dude. But when you told her that you really liked her not to mention all the other sweet things you said, you were — let me see if I can come up with the correct clinical term for it — oh yeah: COMPLETELY FULL OF SHIT.

What irked me about the article was that the part about how Pretty appeared to know it was a casual relationship got swept under the rug.

You may be asking yourself, “Come on, Mandy. Why am I a loser? That seems harsh. It was mostly just sex. We both knew that.”

Here’s why.

Because you pretended to really like her. You fed her lines and lines and lines. I heard the lines. There is casual sex — and then there is casual sociopathic predatory mind-twisting manipulative bullshit. Do you see the difference now?

Let’s go back to the part where he says they both knew it was mostly just sex. Now, let me be clear about something. If he did, in fact, “play” her, I’m not defending the guy. If he indeed intentionally allowed her to believe that the relationship had a future when he knew there was a good chance it didn’t, he’s a bad person. However….she is a fully functioning adult. Only she can control how she feels and whether or not she gets invested. He has nothing to do with that.

I’m not down with this idea that women are not just encouraged but embraced for taking such a passive role in their relationships. I also loathe the whole “he’s a narcissist/sociopath/pathological liar” rationalization. More than likely, he’s just an immature guy who didn’t think about the repercussions of his words and actions. To call men like this pathological actually gives them more credit than they deserve. That label implies a level of cunning and intelligence of which I highly doubt they are capable. They’re just..dumb kids. And you know what? They don’t tend to hide the signs of that terribly well. I was Pretty once, not so long ago. I knew the guy had the potential to be emotionally and morally bankrupt. I ignored all the signs and instead chose to be flattered by and become attached to his attention. I believed the flowery words and promises to get together and compliments. Sadly, I was too lonely to see that he was desperately trying to cut me loose and I wouldn’t take the hint. Yeah, it was hurtful and humiliating. But I chose to ignore the warning signs. I was complicit in the humiliation.

There’s still a chance, of course, that this guy in the article meant everything he said and just chose someone else. They weren’t exclusive, so he’s free to date other women. Just because he didn’t choose Pretty doesn’t mean he’s the next Ted Bundy.

Then there’s the fact that the guy called Pretty and told her personally that they wouldn’t be getting together again. Maybe he decided he was over the relationship. Maybe he genuinely chose someone else. Who knows? What we do know is that he did something pretty unheard of when it comes to casual relationships. He called her and told her to her face not just that they wouldn’t be seeing each other again, but why. This, to me, is what makes me think that this was simply a case of a guy deciding that things wouldn’t work out and not about some master plan to “use” a woman.

Pretty knew that this was just about sex. Therefore, regardless of the things that this guy allegedly said, she should have maintained appropriate expectations. I know that many women here and over on that post feel the guy in this story was intentionally being misleading. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn’t. Regardless of his motivations, the intention of the relationship seemed clear – it was casual at best. The words and even the actions mean nothing and are null and void if those are the expressed parameters. (To be fair, we have no idea what the understood boundaries were in Pretty’s situation. ) We have to be responsible for our own feelings and contributions to the outcome.

It’s fine to be hurt and angry and sad…as long as we eventually get to the point where we look back on that situation and say, ‘You know, I could have handled that differently.”

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How Far Will A Man Go To Avoid Being The Bad Guy?

Name: jennifer
Age: 29
State: mi
Question: I meet a young man in June, we hit it off really well. A few weeks past of us hanging out constantly and so I finally “gave myself to him”. July passed every thing was great, I got pregnant(oops) and lost the baby at 7 weeks. Pretty much since I lost the baby my boyfriend has become distant, in the last few days hes been just telling me the things I wanna here, has nothing going on except taking care of his sibling and has not called or came over. He says I love you, tells me I have to be strong because of circumstances. My question is is this his way of saying he had his fun its over?

 

I would think so, yes. He’s in a no win situation. You and he got pregnant after dating barely 2 months. He likely never intended for things to get serious. Now he has to to stick it out for a period of time so that he won’t look totally heartless.

There was a letter a couple months ago from a guy who met a girl online, took her out once, had unprotected sex with her and got her pregnant. He did what it sounds like your guy is doing. He stuck around for a couple weeks until she got the abortion, gave it about another week and then broke up with her. He was going to end things anyway, but then she revealed she was pregnant. Now he’s stuck. No matter when he broke things off, he’d still always be the guy who got her pregnant and then dumped her.And when he did end things – a week after her procedure – you can be sure she immediately threw that abortion in his face. That was a last ditch effort to try and guilt him into staying with her. He did everything he could to prevent things from escalating and tried to answer every question she asked. Including the toughest question:

“But whhhyyyyyyy?”

The answer was simple. He said he didn’t see any kind of future with her and that he was going to end things earlier, but he waited due to her pregnancy and because he wanted to do the right thing. When she pulled out the “but you got me pregnant” card a second time, he told her exactly what I instructed him to tell her. He said, “Well, I don’t really know that for a fact, do I? If you slept with me without a condom on the first date, it’s not a far stretch to assume you’ve done it with others. I could have just walked away from you and I didn’t.” And like I predicted, that shut her right up. As usual, women get the truth that they say they crave, and then realize they didn’t really want it.

What men fear most about being honest with women is that they know, regardless of what they say, most women will hear what they want and likely hate them any way. Be honest and the woman will accuse them of leading them on for their own benefit.  Lie and the woman will probably still think they’re being deceptive in some way. That’s why many men avoid these tricky conversations all together. Cowardly? In some cases. But in most, the men know that they still will be branded an asshole. They take the hit regardless. They pray the woman will take the hint and go away quietly. And frankly, she should. Insisting upon an explanation is merely our ego talking. We must be acknowledged. It’s not enough to walk away with dignity. We need that acknowledgement to reassure us that we meant something to that man, even though we’re probably not even getting the truth.

Your guy is trying to detach from you as painlessly as possible. So let him. You knew the answer to the question before you hit Submit on the form.

 

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How To Know When You’re Just An Option

Name: Bad Habits
Age: 22
State: Florida
Question: Ok so i met this guy outside of my work. Well he’s in the painting business and as soon as i met him and got his number he left for Detroit for family and work. Well we texted everyday talked on the phone every night. It went on for 2 Weeks straight. We got to know each other rather quickly. I understood he is eight years older than me but i liked his personality alot and understood his past. He started calling me baby and babe. Telling me how much he can’t wait till he comes home to my arms. Then one day after texting him good morning, never heard from him all day. He finally texted me saying been working all day call you later. Ok got it.. Well nothing at all that night or the next day or the next day. I don’t understand this? He just up and stopped talking to me, makes no sense what so ever. Yea well i broke down and tried calling him, no answer, texted him nothing. I’ve had this happen to me before and i still don’t understand it? I mean if you met someone, awesome! But i wish these men won’t leave me hanging. They pretty much tell me everything i want to hear and they just leave. I don’t understand why this keeps happening? Is it me? Or is it them? Need help!!

 

Well, let me ask you this. What is it that you want from these guys? Here’s a guy who is not only 8 years older than you (at 22 that’s a big age difference) but he moved hundreds of miles away for a job. It’s not clear how long you had known him before he moved or what transpired or whether he’s coming back.

We got to know each other rather quickly.

No. You didn’t. You might have gotten an idea of who this man is, but you did not get to know this person via phone and text over the course of a few weeks. He showed you the person he wanted you to see. That’s it. And now you’ve seen another side of him. The side that doesn’t care if his behavior hurts your feelings. Still like him? Oh wait. You do.

You’re romanticizing this relationship. My guess is this isn’t the first time, either. That’s part of the problem. You’re assuming that things mean as much to him as they do to you. You develop expectations of these men because you have told yourself that you and he have some sort of special connection because you managed to have a conversation every night for 2 weeks. That’s not a great connection. That just means you’ve been able – for all of two weeks – to hold this guy’s attention for a consistent series of minutes. That’s it. And to prove to you that this connection is not real, I present Exhibit A: he blew you off. Now, if you and he truly got to know each other and developed a genuine level of intimacy or connection, do you think he’d be ignoring your calls and texts? Does that make sense to you? It shouldn’t. If you find yourself believing his transparent excuses, you need to stop and ask yourself if his behavior matches up to his words.

This is reminiscent of last week’s post about Red Flags. If the man in that story was truly the woman’s friend, he wouldn’t have lied to her. We like to insist that we really did mean something to someone, even though they may have profoundly hurt or embarrassed us, because the truth is just too hard to admit. We meant very little to them. We were a distraction. That’s it.

But i wish these men won’t leave me hanging. They pretty much tell me everything i want to hear and they just leave.

That should tell you that you never meant anything to them in the first place. If this keeps happening, then that should make you aware of the fact that people can tell you exactly what you want to hear for as long as it benefits them and then dump you. This is what you need to realize so that you don’t continue to invest time or emotion in men like this.

The trick is to not get invested in this kind of attention. I’m betting that’s the draw for you, whether you realize it or not. You like the idea of having some guy out there thinking of you and talking to you. Hon, he’s nobody. He’s nothing. He’s a voice on the other end of the line. He provides you with nothing but words. You can get that anywhere, anytime. Start thinking of these men as replaceable as they consider you until they give you genuine reason for you to give them more consideration. They should never be more than options to you before that. That doesn’t mean you should be rude, thoughtless or insensitive. What I’m suggesting is that you learn how to become more detached in the beginning of these situations. Bottom line? These guys don’t care about you and possibly don’t even like or are attracted to you. You are nothing but a source of attention for them. Guys can and will engage a woman simply because they like the ego stroke.

Last week someone commented that I have a bad habit of raining on the parade of women who are holding out for a happy ending. No. What I try to do here is prevent women from deluding themselves and listening to their equally deluded girlfriends so as to prevent them from humiliating themselves.

There is no happy ending here. Just like there was no happy ending for the woman in this post. And whether or not some people agree, sometimes things are very black and white and sometimes it’s incredibly easy to predict the outcome of certain situations without meeting someone. People like to believe in the whole “gray area theory” because they want that non-existent happy ending. 9 times out of 10, there is no gray area. The writing is on the wall. The only ones who can’t see it are the people whose egos are in the way.  They have to be right. They can not admit that they misread a situation or gave too much to someone who didn’t deserve it. Many times it’s not even about getting the guy/girl. It’s about winning. There is no winning in situations like this. None. These people end up sacrificing great amounts of their self-esteem/respect just so they can say they “caught’ someone or they taught someone a lesson.

Let me tell you this. Self-esteem and self-respect is very easy to give up, but it’s incredibly difficult to get back. Consider that the next time you feel some overwhelming need to “win.”

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How Come Women Can Wait To Have Sex But Men Can’t Wait To Commit?

A friend passed along the follow up article to this article this morning and I thought it would make an interesting discussion.

As I said in my original post inspired by the first article, I think that some women wish to believe that men are threatened or intimidated by women who speak their mind or who are upfront about their sexual tendencies and desires. Conversely, many men like to tell themselves that women are threatened by a man who knows what he wants and goes after it or who doesn’t tolerate nonsense.

Neither is true. What makes us take a step back from people like this isn’t their supposed confidence or assertiveness. It’s the slight twinge in our guts that we fell when we sense or see an inconsistency. We’re not intimidated by the person. We become fearful or hesitant. The situation and dynamic has now become unsafe. Accusing someone of being “intimidated” by something implies that they are insecure somehow.  That’s a nice go-to place for those who like to cling to certain narratives, ones where they have some profound hold or affect on the other person.

Getting back to the original article, I want everyone here to imagine this scenario. You go out with someone, everything clicks and you have this great night. The next day you send them a text and tell them how much fun you had and look forward to doing it again. Their immediate response is this:

“Just to be clear…I’m not looking for a relationship.”

Where does your mind go? I’d bet most people would be hurt or embarrassed or at least confused.

What I want to know is how the situation in this article is any different than the example I gave above.I guess that’s what bothers me about both of these pieces. The author is completely discounting the perception and feelings of the guy. I’m in no way trying to imply that the guy probably didn’t let his douchebag flag fly. But I really want people to consider the two scenarios and tell me how they differ.

If he positioned himself as “boyfriend material” by doing things that “boyfriends” do, then slapped a disclaimer on the relationship, he’d be called deceptive or a time waster. So how is that any different than a woman who presents herself sexually in some way? If she’s talking about sex and discussing her sexual proclivities publicly, isn’t she then presenting herself as someone who wants to have sex? Can we agree on that? Nobody is saying that she’s expected to put out immediately. But then, nobody said that the man is expected to commit immediately. Yet women will quickly slam a guy for selling himself as one thing and then abruptly reminding the woman that he’s actually not what she thinks based on what he’s put out there.

The problem here isn’t the laying down of a specific boundary. The problem is both the manner in which the boundary is set and whether or not that stated boundary is consistent with the person’s actions. That’s a very important point that I think many people, including the author of these pieces, is missing. If some guy takes me on a date and breaks out the “we” word and the “next times” and spends 8 hours with me walking in the moonlight, and then tells me the next day out of the blue that he doesn’t want a relationship, I’m going to think one thing – inconsistent. I’m also going to think that this person isn’t safe because how he just expressed himself was abrupt and abrasive. Who wants to subject themselves to possible emotional harm?

Whether it’s advertising or presenting yourself as relationship material or sexual in some way, why is it okay for women to feel strung along or mislead, but men aren’t?

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Plausible Deniability & Dealing With Conflict

Recently, someone from my past contacted me to discuss something I had said in passing here. It was said not in a post, but in a comment.  He was understandably annoyed. I told him that just because something could apply to him doesn’t mean it was directed it him and suggested he simply not read if he was going to personalize everything that is said.

Truth? What I said was in a way inspired by him.  To say that my opinion or expressive commentary wasn’t would be disingenuous.

I wasn’t annoyed at being called out. What annoyed me was his explanation as to how he found out about it.

“Oh, I didn’t read it. Someone that I turned on to your column read it and told me about it.”

Now, that’s entirely possible. Anything is possible.

Rather than say he had read it, he felt it necessary (I believe) to manufacture a source. That way he can take a tone of aloof superiority with me and maintain plausible deniability should I (or anybody else) decide to turn the argument around on him and ask why he’s reading in the first place.

All of this got me to thinking about our own ability to concede and offer a genuine apology. To some people it comes with little angst. But to others, there is a staunch refusal to give in. Their position in the dynamic is far too important to them.They need to cling to the moral high ground, absolutely lying to themselves and others about their contribution to the so-called “problem.”

I recently tweeted that, in order to have an honest conversation with someone, each party needs to be able to be honest with themselves. We say this as it’s a given. Of course. But I think what many people fail to understand is that there are a lot of people who are incapable of this. Which makes dating them very, very difficult. If they are unable to admit their errors or their participation in the current conflict, then there is no point in arguing. There is no winning.

Dealing with conflict is never easy and often exhausting. Especially if one or both parties aren’t very good at resolving the issue productively. Much of how we deal with conflict comes from our environment. We learn at a very young age to either fight or retreat.

About a month ago, I was in a situation where a man and I had had a disagreement over something that, in hindsight, was silly. I watched him putter around his kitchen and get food that he had ordered for us and lay it out on the coffee table in his living room. He didn’t look up, he didn’t say a word. He sat down at the coffee table, crossed his legs and put on The Simpsons, his back to me. He had laid a place out for me. I sat at his computer and watched this unfold, also saying nothing.  Refusing to sit at that table. I looked at him, sitting there with his legs crossed, watching a cartoon.

I got a flash of an image. It was of a little boy eating his dinner in front of the TV, away from what was going on behind him, completely detached. Escaping I think is a better word. In that moment, I couldn’t be angry. This was all he knew. This was how he coped with conflict. He shut out the noise and the tension and just drifted off in to his own world.

Maybe I was projecting my own similar experiences as a child. Due to my Mom dying and everybody grieving in their own way, there was tension. Nobody was really talking about their feelings. They were just..reacting.So I would sit in front of the TV and watch The Brady Bunch and shut it all out.My sisters were all much older than me and were in different stages of development. They would fight over clothes and boys and who gets Dad’s car.  (Is it any wonder my Dad would literally work 18 hour days?)

Growing up in a family of 5 daughters – 5 strong, outspoken women – tends to condition somebody to confront. So you grow up thinking that this is how it’s done and that everybody takes the same approach. So when you come up against someone who takes the exact opposite stance, it can be unbelievably frustrating. You can try to be more in tune with their needs. You can accept them for the tools that they have or don’t have. But by a certain point in our lives, it’s almost impossible to “fix” them.

My friend J. and I were talking about this situation yesterday and she said, “A lot of people aren’t concerned with personal development.  And that’s okay.”

She’s right. Some people will never be who you want them to be. They will never develop the skills necessary to resolve conflict in a productive way. Everybody has their own tool box.It’s just that some people’s boxes are more complete than others. The hard part is finding someone who has the same or similar tools as you do.

Resolving conflict in a healthy way and in a way that doesn’t make you want to shoot your face off starts with one thing:

Accountability. What have you done to add to the mounting tension? Refusing to admit what you’ve done strictly so you can maintain some level of superiority isn’t going to help you get what you want. Then you need to be sure you are justified in your reaction and equally guilty of the same behavior or act.

Next,  you need to show empathy. Why is this person feeling what they are feeling? You don’t have to agree with it. You just need to make a genuine effort to understand. The thing people don’t realize is that some people are incapable of this because every thought they have is fueled by their own self-obsession.

Finally, you need to be able to decide if this problem is actually a problem at all or if you’re choosing to make it one.

That’s the place you come from when you react or make a request.

For me, there are rare cases where I will stand my ground in an argument and refuse to yield. Bullying of any kind will never work on me. Neither will blatant lying or manipulation. Trying to assert control over me will not end well. For either of us.

But when I do become that stubborn, that is a warning sign to me that this is not a relationship I wish to save.  If I’m putting my own ego first, then what does that say not only about my feelings for this person but my ability to be in that particular relationship? Why am I there in the first place??

If you continue to push, you need to ask yourself one thing:

1. Why is it so important to you to “win?”

If you don’t have an answer to that, a real one and not just “Because I’m right”, then you need to just stop.

I’ve said this before. There is no winning in these situations. You might get what you want in the short term. But in the long term, needing to win will eventually become a bigger problem for you.

The truth is, you will not always win. Accept that and move on.

 

 

 

 

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He Said/She Said – Nice Guys, Hook Ups & Cheating “Boyfriends”

Here are some interesting questions from last night’s He Said/She Said panel. (Where I may or may not have had a few Cosmos and am now suffering from a hangover.)

 

If your date wants a hookup but not a relationship, what would be an appropriate way for him to express this?

The tricky part about this is that many women, if they receive such a proposal, will wonder what it is about them that makes a guy think she would be open to that. She’ll wonder if he thinks she’s “easy.” The answer is: probably. But being considered “easy” isn’t necessarily a bad thing. “Easy” to a lot of men often means “simple to deal with/doesn’t have hangups.” If you’re somebody just looking for a casual hook up, then put up a profile on OKCupid and select “short term dating” as your only relationship choice. Do not select “casual sex” because you’ll repel the stable women and attract a lot of the crazies. I’ve come to learn  that it’s a certain type of man or woman that puts their picture up on a profile and openly states they’ll have casual sex. Rarely are those people easy to deal with. Or, you know, healthy. Don’t drag a woman out to meet you under the guise of being open to a relationship and then spring on her that you’re just looking for something casual. If you meet a woman off line and things are clicking and you’re feeling a mutual attraction, then ask her if she’d like to go back to her place or yours, but tell her you’re not looking for a relationship. Not every woman will slap you in the face or call you a masher. Women say they want a man who is honest? Then be honest.

 

Why do women say they want a nice guy but then meet one and want something else?

Easy. Because either they don’t really want  a nice guy OR the guy isn’t so much “nice” as he is “boring” or “weak.” Women want a “good” guy. But we also want a guy with an edge. A bad boy with a good heart. Not only do many of us get bored with a guy who is “too nice” but we long for – whether we will admit it or not – that little bit of drama that comes from not knowing where we stand. A guy that is too accommodating or available is usually deemed “weak” by a woman. I’m not suggesting that a man be rude or mean or abusive. But he should be mysterious and not totally available. Same goes for women. When we say we want a “nice” guy we typically mean a guy who isn’t a selfish asshat. That’s not the same as “nice.” The problem isn’t that we don’t want the nice guys when they cross our paths. It’s that we are not properly defining “nice.”

This question comes from a recent comment. It brings up an issue I’ve wanted to address ever since reading a post here.

He played the part of the fantastic boyfriend to the hilt, so much so that it was like living in a Hollywood movie – and then out of the blue and without any warning, he pulled the “freeze-up,” at which time I discovered that he was online trying to date and have sex with other women (or perhaps had already been doing it while we were together – yuck!), so I ended it. – Terry

Here’s the deal, ladies. If your “boyfriend” is online or has an active profile on a dating website and has his picture attached to it, he was not your boyfriend. Like, at all.  There was no “relationship.” I want everybody to really ask themselves what kind of person does this -  post a photo on the internet, probably on the very site where you and they met, and is openly trolling to dates or sex. While I’m sure there are a few sociopaths out there, the chances that all of the women and men involved with that post I linked to actually met one is slim. No, these people either were “dating” someone for a short period of time and made assumptions, imagined the relationship in their head or couldn’t wait to join the club of people who thrive off being wounded and have been “cheated on” by “boyfriends.” It gives people a sense of community and makes them feel like they have more relationship experience than they actually have. They take something innocuous, that means nothing, and turn it into a drama simply so they can say they once that happened to them, too. If you’re on a dating website skulking around for “proof” of infidelity, you’re “relationship” is clearly pretty tenuous, if it exists at all.

 

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When Will She Stop Withholding Sex?

Name: Jay
State: New York
Age:
Comment: I am a 26 year-old male and I have been with my girlfriend for around 11 months now, on and off. We just got back together and emotionally she is getting close to me again but she has withheld sex from me since December and is still doing so. She claims sex is something I get when I gain her trust and I lost her trust by starting petty fights repeatedly during the months we’ve been together. Before December we were having sex about 3, 4 times a week.
Her rejecting me physically makes me feel worthless and I don’t know how much longer she is making me wait. Is this normal behavior on her part? What do I do to get her to have sex with me again?

She claims sex is something I get when I gain her trust and I lost her trust by starting petty fights repeatedly during the months we’ve been together

So, you two haven’t had sex in almost four months? And you’re still sticking around? Why? You’re 26. Why not just ditch this girl and find someone else rather than allow her to emasculate you like this? It’s not like you’re married. So just leave her and find someone else. That seems like the easiest solution. You’ve already broken up once. That right there is a bad sign. Why hold on to something that doesn’t appear to be very healthy or that makes you unhappy?

I realize that probably wasn’t you wanted to hear, but the alternative – to help you get this woman to have sex with you – just felt all shades of wrong. Withholding sex is just one of the many forms of abuse that a man or woman can endure in a  relationship. Ergo, I wouldn’t advocate staying in such a situation.Really? She broke up with you because she claims you started petty fights, but then got back together with you anyway, thinking if she withheld sex she wouldn’t be giving in? So this is her way with dealing with her own shame or whatever for giving you a second chance? Or does she just like the idea that you’re so whipped you’ll suck it up just to be around her? Either way….that’s a pretty ugly personality there. But it’s also a sign of real emotional immaturity and poor relating skills. I’m assuming she’s younger than you, yes? Say 21-25ish? She gets somewhat of a pass because of her age, but this behavior doesn’t bode well for her future relationships. Or for you.

She doesn’t know how to express her own doubts and hurt, if she has any. Her way to deal with conflict is to punish you and be hurtful. Dating someone who doesn’t know how to communicate such feelings in a healthy way is an uphill battle. Most people take one of two stances when it comes to conflict – they either run away or shut down or they confront the conflict head on. Neither is especially productive.

Also confusing is why she would give up having sex with you if she was having it that frequently before. Is it possible she just doesn’t like sex and is using this as an excuse not to have it? Or that she fears you just are interested in sex or nothing more?Or that she’s, well, getting it somewhere else?

This is an example of how women place such a high value on sex and use it as a bartering chip. Women who do this have a limited understanding of how real relationships – healthy ones – work. It’s a strategy, and it often fails. That is, unless they manage to land a sucker so desperate for a girlfriend that he tolerates it.

You two need to talk about what’s really going on here and you need to get to the bottom of her real concerns. Because this dog don’t hunt. There’s more to it than just her using sex as a reward.

You have to ask her what her true concerns are. If you’ve rectified the behavior and she’s still withholding sex, then the truth is that this girl either just isn’t into you or gets off hurting you.

If you insist upon staying in this relationship, you need to regain some of your footing and stop letting her call the shots. If she doesn’t want to talk or if she continues to her sex strike, then you need to make it clear to her that if she doesn’t have sex with you, you’ll just find someone else who will. If she’s not having sex with you, then as far as I’m concerned, all bets are off. You’re free to do what you want. If she doesn’t like that, well she can always either start having sex with her boyfriend and stop playing games or she can trot along and find some other guy who lacks a backbone to tolerate her drama.

The question you need to ask yourself, Jay, is…how much sh*t are you willing to eat? No man or woman would ever tolerate someone treating them this way. So you need to figure out why you’re desperate to stay with this girl.

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The Tell Tale Tatt

Name: WO7
State: New York
Age:
Comment: Here’s the background information. I met my current girlfriend over 6 months ago. I hate tattoos. I really loathe them. A woman’s natural skin is a beautiful thing. Tattoos are ugly and do nothing but mar its beauty. I understand that everyone feels differently about the issue. Some people love tattoos, some people hate them, and some people are in between. I’m not here to debate whether tattoos are ugly or not. It’s my personal opinion, and my girlfriend knows my feelings on the issue. When I met her, she came with a giant tattoo on the side of her body. It’s a bunch of words. A personal motto she lives by. She said she spent 3 years thinking about it before she got it. I think it’s ugly, and I wish she didn’t have it, but understand it’s significance to her. She had it when I met her, so it’s part of the package. She has never expressed any kind of interest in getting another tattoo.

Yesterday, her friend got a tattoo. She told me she thought it was a bad idea. That the friend had only put 3 months into thinking about it, and that she didn’t think it was enough time to put into a permanent decision like that.

Then last night she gets drunk with her two best friends (one of them being the one who got the tattoo). The best friend convinces the other two friends to both get an impulsive tattoo. Before it happened, she texted me “I’m getting a tattoo.” I wrote back “Don’t do that, you’re drunk.” She never responded. Now she has a tattoo of a bird on the back of her neck.

I’m really upset about it. I’m upset that she wouldn’t even discuss it with me before doing it. Especially when she knows how much I hate them. I’m upset that I have to look at this tattoo for the unforeseeable future.

I understand that it’s her body, and she can do what she wants with it. But I feel like if she truly cared about me, then that would have factored in for her; and she would have at least discussed the issue with me before going through with it.

How does everyone else feel?

 

I am going to blow your mind here and agree with you. I think that when you’re in a relationship, you should at the very least talk with your partner and get their opinion on something like this. I’m not saying that you are obliged to listen to them or do what they say. But you have to be open to hearing their side and you have to consider their opinion. It’s like when men want to grow facial hair or women want to cut their hair. These are things that seem small but play a part in how attractive our partner finds us. This would fall under the category of “lifestyle choice.” And lifestyle choices matter.

Anybody who pulls out their “I am the boss of me” mat and lays down on it is telling you that your opinion doesn’t matter. This is one of the pit falls of being single for too long, as well as just simply being incredibly stubborn and self-involved. It’s not all about you any more. If that idea shocks you to your core, then you simply must stay single.

I’m upset that I have to look at this tattoo for the unforeseeable future.

Here’s where you’re being a drama queen. It’s not the tattoo that bothers you. The tattoo itself isn’t really the problem. What that tattoo represents to you is her unwillingness to consider you and your feelings. Had she been sober at the time, I think this would be a bigger issue. But since she was under the influence of both alcohol and her “Wooooooooo! Girls Night!” girlfriends, I think you need to take a bit of a softer stance. Yes, it sucks that she got a tattoo that you didn’t want her to get. But unless you plan on talking to the back of her head for the forseeable future, this really isn’t an issue unless you choose to make it one.

You also have to take in to consideration that maybe she really didn’t know how you felt about tattoos. Maybe you mentioned something in passing about not liking them or not seeing the point of them. But if you continued to date her when she had some Angelina Jolie/Megan Fox inspired tatt of a saying (yeesh) on her side, then you are pretty much communicating that this is something you can deal with. Unless you made it clear to her that you find tattoos “ugly” then you can’t assume that she’s ignoring your wishes.

But in the end, the tattoo is permanent. So you have to decide if this is one of those things you can suck up and live with, since it will not change, or if you feel it’s a deal breaker.

You have to pick your battles every step of the way in dating. From date one, you need to decide what needs to be hammered out and discussed and what can be swept under the rug. Because many things we think are huge can be swept under the rug.

We’ve spoken about the important tools that people need in order to get and maintain a  relationship. Conflict resolution is probably one of the most important skills. If you’re someone that gets defensive, goes for the ad hominem attack, makes things person or just other wise implodes, you are in for an uphill battle. This is one of the main reasons why people stay single. They don’t learn how to effectively communicate hurt feelings or disappointment. In order to solve a problem in a way so as to avoid it rearing its head again, both parties have to:

  • Be able to be accountable for their actions
  • Listen
  • Think before they speak
  • Keep the discussion on point and not deflect, be led off topic or make personal accusations
  • Be willing to concede

If you find yourself with someone who can never admit when they are wrong or who always takes things to a personal level,  back away slowly. Those people are not healthy partners.

 

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