How Do You Treat Someone Like An Option?

Name: Leighaustin-powers

Comment: I met Patrick two weeks ago.  We’ve had one date and a handful of home visits since then.  We have not had sex yet, but plenty of heavy petting and since reading your article “Either F*ck Them or Don’t” I’ve come to the realization I need to get over myself and f*ck him already. I’m at the point though that if he doesn’t initiate a conversation with me by 5 PM, I start a downward spiral of insecurity. And then when I do hear from him, I try playing it cool by acting like it’s no big deal if he doesn’t want to come over (in the two weeks, this has only happened once.) I don’t want to initiate the conversation and I don’t want him thinking my standoff-ish-ness is a reflection of my feelings. Side note: he starts law school in the Fall at a college 270 miles away. Dating someone with an expiration date also concerns me.

How does a woman act cool, calm, and collected (i.e. treat him as an option) and still let the guy know you’re interested?

Thank you!
Age: 28
City: Bismarck
State: North Dakota

 

It’s nearly impossible to act casual once you get in your head. That is a mindset that needs to start from the beginning. There’s no such thing as “acting” casual. The mere fact that you’re acting casual implies that that isn’t your natural state of being. Eventually, after a time of pretending, the real you emerges to the surface.

Going forward if your goal is to not get attached too quickly, which is what your real challenge is, you need to approach every situation with low expectations. In addition to that, you have to work on any other possible issues that cause you to be so anxious and/or compulsive.  The need to know where you stand and what they’re thinking is exactly where people take a wrong turn. You have to stay focused solely on how you feel and what you want. That doesn’t mean you get a free pass to be rude, thoughtless or insensitive. It just means that you have to avoid trying to crawl around in their head and stay firmly in your own. The reality is that you will never, ever, ever really know what another person is thinking. You could be with someone for years and still not know. Start there. Begin this transformation by accepting that you will never have 100% disclosure or transparency. Next, acknowledge that we are all options at one time or another and that that is not a bad thing. It’s just truth. We are options until we are not options. Now you just have to continuously remind yourself that no matter how this scenario turns out, you are and will be perfectly fine. That part is crucial. Stop fearing the pain and hurt and not knowing. It has never killed anybody. Every single day that you wake up and go to school or work or on a date, you got yourself there. You’ve got this whole enjoying life thing well covered. The rest is a bonus.

Personally, I am completely unable to get involved with someone who brings with them a known or tangible sense of impermanence. I can’t do it. And that’s okay. You’re not weak for not being able to be totally detached. Know your limitations. That’s another important step. What can you handle without ending up in the fetal position mumbling to yourself.

I think it’s best for you to remove yourself from this situation all together. You are way too in your head to be able to stay detached. Either that or you need to admit how you feel to yourself and to this guy and then let the chips fall where they may.

 

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Has Dating Become Too Detached?

Name: PhilMan-upset-with-smart-phone-via-Shutterstock-615x345

Comment: I thought this topic should (if not) already be discussed.  I think most of us are in agreement that if we received a message from someone we’re not interested in on an online dating site, it’s fair to just not respond.  Sure, you COULD respond and say “Thanks, I’m not interested” but that honestly just seems like a waste of time and internet bandwidth.

One thing I’ve noticed in my NYC dating life is that, when I first stated, I was a bit taken a back about how I could go out with someone, spend 4 hours enjoying their company, pay and then just have them flat out not respond to a text I sent.  I know everyone’s first response is “aw, another typical fragile male ego” but that’s really not the case.  There have been plenty of women who found me attractive, enjoyed my time but just didn’t feel like we were compatible.  They said so (either in text or that night) and I found that very admirable.  Some other women (and I’m sure men do this to) seem to find it perfectly acceptable to go out with someone, be paid for and then just never respond to any communication again.  Hell, I’ve even had women sleep with me and then not respond (another head-scratcher but we’ll leave that one for another day).

Perhaps I’m old-fashioned in my general manners but I like to believe that treating others the way you like to be treated counts for at least something.  What’s the typical M.O. that you recommend to someone when a date texts them to ask them out again and they’re not interested?
Age: 29
City: NY
State: NY

 

The obvious answer to this that you’re right. The courteous thing to do when someone sends you a text after a date to say thank you or to ask you out again is to reply. Obviously. But you know what? Most people don’t really care how you feel. Sorry, they don’t. Most people have accepted that no response is usually a response and they move it along.

Getting stuck on situations like this serves zero purpose. You can talk all day about how people should be more polite and follow the Golden Rule, etc. Nobody. Cares. No response is a response. Tattoo that on your arm so you won’t forget it. What you want is to be acknowledged and shown that you matter to that person. You don’t. Simple as that. You do not matter to that person. This is a case of a fragile ego whether you want to admit to that or not.

Here’s a new Golden Rule for You: Some people suck. Deal with it.

Accept that and you’ll be better off.

We now exist in an age of anonymity and detachment. After years of feeling like just a number or option, people have developed a harder outer shell. We have to in order to survive dating as it is now. It’s not 20 or even 10 years ago. We communicate in bytes and bits. That’s what we have become, mostly due to technology. Dating online requires a sense of detachment. The days of getting your hopes up and swooning over someone you met online are and should be gone. That’s unrealistic now. Dating now requires that people stay realistic and maintain low to moderate expectations.

One of the greatest tool a single person can develop is a thick skin. The amount of rejection we experience can be soul crushing. People fade and disappear and cancel and flake. That is dating now. That type of behavior is a staple dating experience for everybody. The reality is that in order to survive it you must check your ego at the door. 50% of the time the lack of response or rejection or ghosting you experience has nothing to do with you. There are countless reasons why someone didn’t follow up or see you again or respond. You can not sit and over-think it. You have to learn how to shrug this treatment off and keep trudging on. Not everybody is going to think and act and date just like you. If you need constant affirmation that you’re a fun date or good in bed or a nice person, then that’s your homework. It’s not the responsibility of random strangers you meet on the internet to validate your existence. That’s your job.

When those thoughts pop into your head about why someone blew you off or didn’t respond, push them right out of your mind. If this stuff keeps happening over and over with nothing in between, then and only then should you perform a post-mortem on your dating and social skills.

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Was This Break-Up Bound To Happen?

Name: Sharonbreaking-up-4
Comment: I’m wondering if this guy I’ve been seeing is not interested – I feel like I’m getting mixed signals.

Here’s the backstory: we met about 2.5 months ago via match. We’re the same age (27). For the first seven weeks, we went out once per week, either on Friday or Saturday night. He planned 5 of the dates, and I planned 2 of them. We did have sex..I believe on date #3. I thought we had a nice time together on our dates, which consisted of either dinner, drinks, or something athletic. I didn’t hear from him much during the week – maybe a text or two with something funny, but nothing beyond that. After our eighth date (spread over 2 months), I told him that I’d like to see him a bit more than once a week if he could manage it. I had tried to get together with him during the week twice before, and he’d told me he was busy both times (once with work, once with friends). Note that I have met some of his friends on two occasions. We both work a lot, so I acknowledged that it wasn’t practical to be getting together multiple times per week -that I was thinking more like twice a week. I explained that I just wanted to get to know him better.

He told me that he’s really busy with work, and apologized. He then asked me what I was looking for with him. I said I wasn’t sure…that I wanted to get to know him better to determine that. I said I knew I didn’t want some extended casual thing, but that it was too soon to say whether I’d want a relationship with him. I then asked him what he wanted (with me and in general) and he said he wasn’t sure. He said he liked me, and is definitely not just trying to have sex with me, but that he is very focused on his career. He said in a way he’d like a relationship (and envies his friends with girlfriends), but that he also isn’t sure whether he could handle a serious relationship right now with his job. He also told me he has not had a serious girlfriend since college (so, for 5 years). He said he wanted to keep seeing me, and I agreed (I didn’t want to pressure him).

The next week, he seemed to make a real effort, and we went out twice (once on Wednesday, once on Saturday). However, on Saturday, HE brought up our little talk again. He said he feels bad about seeing me only once or twice a week, and having sex with me every time. And that he feels like he’s not giving me what I want /deserve. He suggested we not have sex (I said okay). He also told me that he didn’t want to keep me from seeing other people (I told him that I had continued to). I told him that if he couldn’t ever envision a relationship with me, then I didn’t see the point in us continuing to see each other. He said “ever” was a very strong word and that that was obviously not the case. I decided to just drop the subject at that point, and we went to bed at his place (but did not have sex, as he said he didn’t want to). I noticed the next day that he’d checked out my match profile (maybe to see how active I have been?).

I haven’t heard from him since I left his apartment this past Sunday morning. Should I bother to reach out, or just wait until I hear from him (if ever)? Should I just end this and assume he’s lost interest? Or should I give him more time? Is it possible he actually is just busy or “scared” of commitment, and that it’s not that he’s not interested in me?

I honestly don’t feel like my asking to see him a bit more could have been such a huge pressure cooker – I framed it as just wanting to get to know him better, and acknowledging that we were both quite busy.

Thanks for any advice – the advice I see you giving others is great.
Age: 27
City: Boston
State: MA

 

I think he’s already ended it. His decision to not have sex was a smart one, as it would not only make things more confusing but add a layer of difficulty to the impending split.

You did everything right here. You identified your needs and communicated them and you appear to have met him half way. I think this is a case of someone truly not having the time for a serious relationship. I don’t think it has anything to do with you at all. He hasn’t had a serious relationship in five years. This is all on him.

Asking to see him more might have made the break up happen sooner, but it was going to happen no matter what.

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How Come a Man Can Have Casual Sex And Be a “Good Guy” But a Woman Can’t?

Alex over at The Urban Dater wrote an interesting post asserting that free dating sites are mostly for people who want casual sex or a middle finger to tyrannyone night stand.

Even on OkCupid, the standard-bearer of all free online dating sites, women can’t get away from the fact that there are dudes that want one night stands; as evidenced when I peruse the countless profiles with that disclaimer at the end about not wanting one-night nookie. Deal with it. That’s what free online dating means. One night bang sessions.

Now, it’s possible that this article was really just a thinly veiled schill for Match.com. If it’s not, allow me to explain what I think this essay is really all about.

 

Free sites are where people who want one night stands flock to. Craigslist anyone? Shit, that site gave me a good number of disposable poon. Sure, it’s an ugly thought, but, hey, that’s why I was there.

I’ve talked to a number of women who get a ton of messages from guys who are hitting them up saying things like “sweetie,” “baby,” “nice tits” and more… detailed. A couple of my female friends have confided that, to a degree, they love the attention. But they just want a good guy. That’s reasonable. Don’t we all? Well, in my case, I’d like a good girl. Good girls are everywhere to be found, but why the fuck would a woman who wants a “good guy,” who doesn’t want a one night stand, put a profile up on a free online dating site? That’s just insane! Free dating sites stop short of putting the punany on a platter and serve it up to any who are buying… That’s crazy to me.

Am I reading this correctly? Alex can fuck around Craigslist with wild abandon and still be a “good guy.” He can get all kinds of “poon” or “punany” or whatever adorable name for a woman’s vagina that he likes and his virtue is still in tact. But if a woman does the very same thing, apparently she’s not what Alex considers a “good girl.” That would be an example of hypocrisy, folks. And slut shaming. And douchebaggery. If a woman uses a free site like OK Cupid then that must mean she’s exclusively seeking casual sex and therefore is a “bad girl.” Here’s the best part: he knows he’s screwed around Craigslist and still considers himself a good guy. He has no definitive knowledge of what the women are doing, yet feels quite comfortable slapping them with the slut label anyway. Am I reading this correctly? The implications seem pretty clear to me.

I’ve been saying this to women for years. I can’t believe it but I’m going to say the same thing to men. A woman can express interest in a sexual relationship or enjoy sex with various partners and still be relationship material. Because, see, sex is fun. Humans like sex. And most of us are pretty careful and safe and responsible and take the necessary precautions. Sometimes? We don’t. But guess what? We’re STILL relationship material. One can have nothing to do with the other.

As for the whole nonsense about free sites being monopolized by people who just want sex, please. Do you really think that paying $30 a month is going to deter a man or woman solely seeking casual sex? Allow me to answer that for you. No, it doesn’t.  Also, why do people forget that OK Cupid also has a paid membership option and that many people utilize it? I deal with female clients every week who are on Match and talk about the guys they believe are only looking for a quick hook up. The attention/free meal/sex seekers are everywhere. Are there more on free sites? Probably. The majority of them make their intentions known upfront, either by stating in their profile what they seek or not making a smidge of effort to complete their ad. You don’t need a PhD in Psychology or Forensics to spot those guys. So it’s not impossible to avoid them.

There is one type of guy becoming more prevalent on dating sites that are hard to read. They’re the guys who, like their female counterparts, include disclaimers in their profiles about not wanting to meet anyone “just” looking for a casual hook-up. Allow me to deconstruct these morally superior dudes.  Here’s what statements like that as well as quotes like the ones above are really saying, “I’ve boned my way around the internet and now I want a ‘good girl.’ Because guys can screw around all they like. Women who do that are sluts. ” The guys insisting upon wanting a “good girl” are really just projecting on to the women their own self-loathing and insecurity for either giving it up “too soon” or because they fear they’ll never satisfy a sexually experienced woman. They’re inability to reconcile with their own choices are the true threat to their pursuit of finding true love. To put it more succinctly, they got caught up in all the sex that was available to them or feel somehow threatened and now hate themselves for it. But instead of just deciding to stop hooking up, they place the responsibility for their sex spree on the women. The women seduced them, you see.

Women are just as guilty of this. they encounter men who all but tell them they just want to get off, but they meet them out of curiosity or some other lame excuse. They lay out stupid tests, and even when they guy fails all of them,they still have sex with them. Then the guy bails. Then they complain about never meeting any “good guys.”

 Free dating sites are custom-made for people to get their bang on. And, yeah, yeah, maybe you met your long-term boyfriend there, or your husband, wife, fiance, life-mate, whatever; doesn’t change the fact that if one night stand poon was on the table that they’d take it.

For people who get laid fairly easily, every medium is custom made for people “to get their bang on.” The platform is not what gets them laid. Their attractiveness and skill set is what gets them laid. Women want the good guy who also makes them toss aside those arbitrary rules they cling to so they can enjoy a night of face-meltingly good sex. I’ve said it before: the women who complain about nice guys or how they want a good guy just need a reason to believe that they’re different or special and they’re in bed on the first date. The reason why guys who send emails asking for a hook up don’t get laid is because they lack finesse. That’s it. The women who say they “just want a good guy” really mean they want a good guy who also happens to turn them on. A guy who is capable of seducing them on the first date is that guy, and that guy is all over most dating sites, especially ones like OK Cupid. That explains why someone might plead with women to stop using a free dating site. Those sites provide far too much competition for them.

It’s concerning to me how offended some of these guys sound at the prospect of a woman wanting to hook up with men. When did that become such a crime? And what is at the root this apparent skittishness towards sexually assertive women?

 

 

 

 

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How To Lose a Date In Ten Minutes

Last week, I had a blind date whereby she slowly but surely insisted that I meet her at the place she wanted clock(which was totally fine with me) but with her friends present (her introducing me when I arrived). I felt so uncomfortable like while they were asking me questions right away like they all had to inspect / get to know me and felt that it turned into a 5-on-1 and by the time we were alone (30 minutes into the date), I felt like I had been rung over the coals. I guess I passed the test but didn’t really want to spend more time with her to be honest. So in the future, I’m going to ask someone to meet “on neutral grounds”. Am I wrong in doing this? Thanks much! – Matt, NYC, 36

You’re within your rights to be turned off by this behavior. It’s rude and childish.

I wouldn’t make it a point to say that you wish to meet on neutral grounds. You should, however, take control of the situation from the start. Choose a place. If she comes back at you with another suggestion – and you know there’s nothing wrong with the location you chose – consider that a warning. You can concede if she pushes the issue, but realize that that’s a red flag, too.

Here’s what you learned by her little maneuver. First, you learned that she’s rude. Second, you learned that her friends are rude. The socially appropriate thing to do in a situation like this is to break free from your gaggle of gal pals. If her friends were remotely polite, they would have either left before you arrived or soon after in order to give you and your date some privacy.

The main reason you shouldn’t go out with her again is that you established a bad precedent. You took her crap and didn’t speak up. Now she’ll think she can do things like this and get away with it. There’s nothing wrong with standing your ground in a situation like that. In fact, I recommend it.

There are various things that men and women do that reveal will tell you they’re going to be difficult. After running events for many, many years I am able to spot a person who will be a problem a mile away. Keep these moves in the back of your mind next time you agree to meet someone.

They upgrade the date -We’ve discussed this before. If you suggest one place and they counter with a place that’s more expensive, they’re either testing you or just in it for the experience or story. If you’re someone who expects the man to pay for the date, they get to choose where you meet. If you upgrade, fork over some cash. This also includes people who, on a date, order food without asking their date first if they mind if they do so.  If you order food on a date that was originally specified to be a drinks date, pay for it. Or at least offer.

They pull the safety card - Unless you’re suggesting to meet them in a dark alley or your apartment on a first date, the safety excuse is specious. It is being used to force you to give them what they want. Push the issue and you are immediately labeled a criminal.

They demand various kinds of contact info – At this stage of the dating game, most people prefer to keep their last names or other more personal contact info to themselves until they’ve met you. Just because they’re not offering you their blood type doesn’t mean they’re hiding something. It means, like you, they’re not sure if you’re dangerous.

They pull a 180There was a story today on XOJane about a woman’s great first date with a guy she met on Match. Everything went swimmingly, but then the next day he sent her a text saying he was intimidated by her but really wanted to be friends and hang out. Translation: I want to redefine the terms of this arrangement to meet my specifications. The compliments are a smokescreen used to make the other person more pliable. Someone who does this is trying to manipulate the situation to their advantage. Or they’re flakey.

They ask for more pictures - If you have at least 3 recent photos on your profile and they don’t look a decade old, that should suffice. They want to be sure they won’t show up and find you heavier or older. Anybody who needs that 45 minutes to be “worth their time” is too particular or has had a number of bad experiences, which in and of itself is a problem.

They tell you you’re their first date from the site – This one isn’t so bad, but it still should be filed away. Don’t get your hopes up, especially if the date is amazing. They’ll go home thinking that if online dating is that successful, why stop now?

They tell you about all their awful dates – Again, somebody who has a series of failed or horrific first dates is the only common denominator in those situations. They either have bad filters or thrive off the drama of all their ‘bad dates.’

They tell you about their good dates – Much like the general rule that you don’t talk about your exes on a date, you don’t talk about your successes if they’re current. Take that to mean that they’re playing the field. Mucho.

They tell you that previous people have called them intimidating – Warning! Danger Will Robinson. Something about them is difficult to deal with or unlikeable. A person only has to hear that once in order to do some inventory. That is never, ever, ever a compliment.

They reveal something too personal – Either this person has issues with boundaries or they’re trying to force familiarity with their date. Oh, you had an abortion or once had a woman threaten to get a restraining order? Keep that shit to yourself.

They suggest a coffee date – Boo boo boo boo. You’re probably dealing with someone who refuses to spend more than X on a date. If they’re a recovering alcoholic and don’t want to meet in a bar and you drink, consider that a major difference in lifestyle choices. They might be newly sober or don’t wish to put themselves in that kind of environment. That’s perfectly acceptable, but if you enjoy a drink or three, eventually that will become a problem.

They don’t send a thank you text/email after the date – This is just bad form, plain and simple. If your date paid the bill, send them a message and say thank you. That’s what you would do if you received a gift. It’s proper etiquette. You don’t have to discount that person completely if they don’t send one, but you should keep tuck that in the back of your mind. If you want a second date, you should be following up the next day with a simple thank you email. (Looking at the women here.) If they don’t follow up, they either aren’t interested or feel you should be the one to contacting them first. It’s a hoop. If you like them, jump through it. If you don’t, don’t.

 

 

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Nothing Makes Dating Harder Than Being Impatient

Name: Tonycocktailparty_main
Comment: Evening.

I have met up with a girl online and thought out of respect I would hide my profile while I got to know her better.

We have been on 4 dates and reached a level of intimacy that would tell me that, whilst me may not be exclusive, I would feel uncomfortable asking another girl out for a drink.

I have since discovered she is active online nearly every day. I appreciate this could range from simply clearing emails to communicating with other members.

Is it fair to ask why she would be online so much, am I just being played while she checks whether there are better options…

curious what “etiquette” would say..

Tony
Age: 38
City: toowoomba
State: QLD

You can’t ask her about her online dating activity without revealing that you’ve been monitoring her. There really is no etiquette that you can follow in this situation, as online dating (and dating in general) has morphed into a version of The Wild West. There aren’t many rules anymore.

If you want things to become exclusive or wish to have her take down her profile, then I’d wait until you have a couple more dates and then bring up the subject. It’s only been 4 dates, which really isn’t a lot of time. And like you said, she could just be checking messages or visiting the site out of boredom. You really have no idea why she’s logging on. You don’t want to come across insecure or accusatory.

In the meantime, you can take your profile down. If she’s into you, she’s doing the very kind of recon work you are. She’ll notice if your profile is no longer visible. If she is on the same page as you, she will probably bring up the fact that she noticed that your profile is down. That’s your opening. I would do this first before initiating the conversation. Give her some time to notice that you took your profile down. If she doesn’t bring it up (and you know she’s been online) then broach the subject after you’ve had another date or two. Just don’t ever admit that you were checking up on her. All you’ll be doing is giving her something to file away and use against you. You’ll make yourself way too vulnerable.

As for whether or not you’re being played, the truth is that at any given time we’re all being played. That’s a staple of dating. We are all somebody’s second choice or other option. This need to feel unique and special is something we all need to get over. It takes time to be considered that much of a priority to someone. I understand that you might be anxious to lock things down. But nobody has ever said that they regret being cautious. It’s been four dates. Even if she is dating other people, she could just be trying to prevent herself from getting too attached to you. You’re not in her head. You don’t know.

The ability to sit back and let things unfold is a skill every single person needs to develop. We need to learn how to shelve our expectations and time tables and allow for other people to get to where we are on their own time. (Within reason.) One of the reasons why I am an advocate of dating multiple people and casual dating is because I happen to believe that it takes a very long time to determine possible long term compatibility. The men who write in their profiles about how they’re looking for a life partner or only check long term dating are not men I engage. I would be a waste of their time. Those men want girlfriends. I’m a great girlfriend. But it takes me time to get there, a hell of a lot longer than a few dates.

Nothing – and I mean nothing – will cripple a person’s ability to form a lasting connection with another person more than being impatient.

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Are You Comfortable In Your Own Skin?

Name: Slightly Amusedman-surrounded-by-women
Comment: Hello!

I have recently started dating after ending a three year relationship late last year. I went out to dinner with an acquaintance, a 31 one year old man I had met at a mutual friends art event a year ago, he added me on facebook and I never gave him another thought.

Fast forward to April this year and we end up at the same friends mutual art event again and this time after a great conversation, he asks me out for dinner. I accept, fast forward to 7 dates spread across roughly two months. But a couple of things have left me slightly perplexed.

Firstly. He appears to have a large female friends group and seems much more comfortable hanging with women than men. He lives with three female housemates. One of which he refers to as ‘wifey’ and she refers to him as ‘hubby’. He mentioned this to me on date 6, information I did not request nor had I mentioned any exes or dates. On this same date, he also mentioned another ‘dear’ friend of his woman, a woman, who he admitted that her parents constantly tell her that she should date him.

Now to add more to the confusion. Later on that same date, we suddenly dropped into some friends of his who exclaimed ‘oh its so good to finally meet you’. Mind you, I had no idea who they were. Nor had any warning I was about to be meeting friends of his.

He’s charming, attentive and all that usual stuff but I have this strange feeling he is the type who simply likes to be around lots of women. On the one hand, he is mentioning me to his friends and on the other hand he keeps talking about these female friends of his. As a no fuss, no type of drama lady, should I run asap?

thanks for your help!
Age: 28
City: Auckland
State: New Zealand

 

I don’t know if you need to run away screaming. Yes, I think it’s concerning that he has an abundance of female friends. I’m more concerned about the female roommate who refers to him as her “hubby.” But then, the idea of a “work wife/husband” had become somewhat common. It’s not abnormal for men and women to develop relationships with members of the opposite sex that mirror their primary romantic relationship.

He sounds really insecure. It’s as if he’s trying really, really hard to prove to you that women find him endearing and attractive. My guess is that has something to do with why he’s formed not just friendships but close friendships with so many women. Telling his friends about you also feels forced.

A few weeks ago  I was interviewing guys for this article. I asked men if they had ever received sexual messages from women on OK Cupid. One guy responded and didn’t just send me the content of the message the woman wrote, but also told me what her username was. Intrigued by this obvious bit of attention whoring bait, I asked him more questions. He claimed to have developed a sexual relationship with this woman because of her saucy message. When I expressed surprise at her willingness to accept a casual sex arrangement when her profile made it appear she wanted more, he “happened” to mention that he was really well endowed. Aww, pumpkin. I haz Sadz. Challenge accepted.

My interest completely piqued, I asked him why he felt he and this woman were so sexually compatible. From her photos and profile…I just didn’t see it. Something was off. This guy was bursting at the seams to tell me what they did sexually. One of those things was a MMF threeway. Oh, and that she used a strap on. On him. I asked him if he’s bisexual. He replies and says he’s “orally bi.” Apparently that’s a thing. Who knew? The tone of the conversation changes. I don’t push anything further, sensing that this guy was struggling with something related to is sexuality. He then asked me to meet him for a drink. I said sure. He replied and inquired f I had any issues dating someone bisexual. I said no, not at all, as long as they’re comfortable with their sexuality. We made a plan to meet, I never followed up.I got the sense that this guy was desperate to prove something to himself, and I wasn’t going to take part in that sort of denial-filled ruse.

My point? I think this guy you’re dating is struggling with something. Maybe it’s his sexuality, maybe he knows all his friends wonder why he doesn’t have a girlfriend, maybe his family is pressuring him to settle down. I don’t know. The feeling I get is that he’s performing. That doesn’t make him a bad or malicious person. If anything I feel bad for him that he’s not comfortable in his skin.

For people like this, the perceptions of other people are what shape them. I think he’s trying to prove to you (and his friends) that he’s in demand and that women find him desirable or that he’s capable of having a girlfriend. My guess is that what is pushing him is a profound insecurity about his own attractiveness. The multitude of female friends if just an outlier to the deeper problem.

Give a bit of time. If he still seems to be constantly trying to prove something to you, then I’d address these concerns with him. If he gets defensive, that’s a sign that you struck a nerve with him and should probably back away.

 

 

 

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How Not To Talk To A Woman On OKCupid

My latest for Role/Reboot is up:Christan_okcupid_messages

There’s a dance involved with online dating that many have yet to learn.

“Let me also be honest here, you are one of the prettiest women I have seen on OKCupid. However, I must be honest with you again…I really enjoy eating women out, I could probably do it for hours on end. Yes, I know it’s kind of out there and if you think I’m an arrogant asshole for saying that, then so be it, but if not, let it be known that this is a deal breaker for me because eating women out is something I enjoy very, very much.”

While some men find emails that get right to the point refreshing, many women find them unsettling. From my personal experience ticking off the casual sex box on my profile, I initially felt a sense of shame for being so forthright. Having men speak to me so graphically made me feel as though I had done something wrong by simply checking a box. It shouldn’t be like that. The true concern for me isn’t just the nature of these notes. It’s the volume. A week doesn’t go by where I have to flag a few people for being crass. It’s frightening to me how it appears to have become not just common, but acceptable to speak to a woman in this manner. Mind you, I’m not talking about the messages that address my looks. While I find those tedious, I don’t find them offensive. I’m talking about messages that include commentary of an overtly sexual nature, like the one I mentioned up top. READ THE FULL POST HERE>>

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Is There Ever a Time When You *Should* Take a Dating Break?

Name: JenniferAndrea-Vránová-Feet-461251

Comment: Hi,

I’m ending things with my bf that I’ve been dating for about 3 months and would like to get back into online dating. Problem is, I’m stumped on how to do so. I’ve been divorced almost 2 years, and have had a lot of fun and success with online dating since the divorce. So I feel like I know what I’m doing in this realm. Problem is, I’m currently dealing with a back injury and am relatively immobile.

I’m normally a very active person; played D1 athletics in college and keep up with a very active and fit life. So all of my previous profiles have been about my interest in athletics and I’ve been successful at finding dating partners who are similarly active. Recently, I injured myself badly enough that I need back surgery in a few weeks. I’ll be out of serious athletics for 3-6 months after surgery, and I currently use a walker and sometimes even a wheelchair to get around.

I’m not trying to hide this fact from anyone, and get that it will scare some guys away. It makes sense. It’s not particularly hot to see your 30-something date hobble in to a restaurant in a walker. But I should be out of the walker shortly after the surgery and I plan on taking the advice I’ve seen you post to other people in awkward situations (jobless and whatnot) and not necessarily disclose my temporary disability in my profile but let people know my situation once we start talking about meeting up so I’m not hiding anything. If they choose not to meet up with me while I’m in this phase of life, that’s ok. I certainly can’t blame them.

Am I taking the right approach with this? I’d love to get back in the dating game now, but would it be better to just hold off until I’m recovering from the surgery and can walk independently again? And how should I frame my profile – I still consider athletics to be the core of who I am, but it’s something I really won’t be able to participate in for quite awhile.

Thanks for your help!

Jennifer
Age: 32
City: Plymouth
State: MI

There are two issues here that should be addressed.

First is whether or not you should just take a bit of a break from dating until you fully recover from your surgery. My answer is yes, you should take a break from dating. You suffered a back injury. Those can take a long time to heal, especially if you’re up and down and over-exerting yourself. I have to be honest and say I’m getting a bit of a compulsive vibe from you in terms of how athletic and active you are. If you hurt yourself so badly that you now need to undergo surgery, I’d take that as a sign that maybe you’re pushing yourself a little too hard.

I totally understand the need to constantly be doing something and how frustrating it is to feel limited in some capacity. But there are times when we have to do just that. I happen to think that our bodies are pretty amazing and resilient. Injuries typically occur when we’ve done something wrong or because we’ve weakened ourselves to the point where we’ve made ourselves susceptible to harm. Your body is telling you to take it slow. Listen to it. The last thing you want is for whatever damage you did to your back to not heal properly. You’ll be in and out of hospitals for the rest of your life. And sports? Kiss them good bye.

Personally, I’d question someone in your position who was still so anxious to date.I have to be honest and say I wouldn’t get involved with someone who was in some kind of life transition. Momentum is important. It’s hard to build that when there are so many possible stops and starts and difficulties.

Here’s where things get delicate. I also wouldn’t want to date someone who either couldn’t have sex or whose ability to have sex was somehow impaired.  These guys you’d be meeting….they want sex. They’re not dating you because they need an extra player for their softball team. Walkers, canes and crutches aren’t sexy. Everything including what you do on your dates will be affected by your recovery. You appear to be approaching this from only one side, not really considering how all of this will affect the person you’d be dating.

It’s one thing if someone has lived a long period of time with an injury. They’ve found their work-arounds and have adjusted. That I can manage. They’ve overcome whatever limitations that have been put in their path. They’ve also, and this is crucial, developed an identity that incorporates that limitation in some way. You sound like your whole identity is tied to sports and athletics and being active. Take those things away from you and I wonder how you would cope. That would be my greatest concern. There’s something more going on here with you, something psychological that I think you need to tackle first. This need you have to always be doing and going and active feels compulsive to me.

As far as how to frame your profile in terms of how active/athletic you are, I’ve never been a big fan of men or women going on about their athleticism in their profile. People like that come off rigid and obsessive to me. (Case in point: you.) I have no desire to date someone who always needs to be doing some activity. I have yet to meet someone who went on and on in their profiles about alllll the things they do who didn’t make me feel like I was on an interview.

Not everybody you meet is going to be as sporty as you. You’re doing yourself a disservice if you require that they be as active as you are. You can mention it and even say that you’ve slowed down a bit due to an injury. But I really wouldn’t make this a focus of your profile. Including something like this will likely end up making many, many other people think they shouldn’t message you.

 

 

 

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Let Your Dating Experience Be Your Guide

Name: Nancyart-online-dating-tf
Comment: I have a question that I really, deep-down know the answer to, but I need to ask someone anyway! I am 47, have been divorced for 15 years, have been engaged, involved in a different long-term relationship on and off for ten years, and also have casually dated, so I have been in just about any dating scenario. I recently had to move for my job, and I moved to a region of the country that seems very different from where I used to live. Here, where I live now, it is much more common to be in a serious committed relationship, even to be married, so I seriously considered starting dating again. I subscribed to an online dating site, and I immediately got a lot of responses, but over the first week or two, it seemed whomever I liked or thought attractive never wrote back or responded, and the ones I didn’t like were all over my email, “winking” and everything else possible online. If I did like someone, I never really heard from them again. Until, I got an email from a guy many, many miles away. We started texting, then he started sending me photos, telling me how much he likes me, inviting me to fly to his home, calling me ‘sweetie,’ etc. This has been going on for two weeks. He sent me many photos of himself, I reciprocated, only clothed, mind you! He now has sent me photos of himself unclothed, and has asked me not to date other people for the next couple of weeks, and he plans to have me fly in to visit with him after a couple of weeks. Why would he be in such a rush? Why would he ask me not to date other people? Why, at age 47 do I suddenly have someone who seems so enamored with me? I am not 27, I am 47, and I am starting to look my age! He is 48. This seems odd to me, and I once was very gullible, but I am not so gullible anymore. Why would someone who has never met me ask me to stop dating other people? I am leery, mistrustful, skeptical, as I should be, but is any of this normal? I don’t know enough about online dating to decide.

Questioning
Age: 47
City: Salt Lake City
State: Utah

 

Is it normal? Well, it’s certainly common. You’re right to be suspicious. Cut off all contact with him. He’s up to no good. He’s either extremely desperate or a con artist or simply looking for some kind of sexual release.

You’re asking yourself all the right questions.

Why is this guy contacting me?

Why is someone who lives far away messaging me?

Why is he so eager?

I got into it in the comments of this post a few days ago with a regular commenter. He didn’t seem to understand why I might consider someone who lives well outside a person’s typical search parameters was a red flag. He also didn’t think it strange that the guy had invited his “girlfriend” along on a fishing trip with his guy friends.

When it comes to dating, there are certain things that fall outside the scope of what’s normal. A person should be able to meet a possible match in their area or thereabouts. For someone to have to go hundreds of miles out of their search range, there has to be a reason. While some people can think of possible explanations that don’t indicate trouble, those are exceptions to the rule and not the rule. Those people also need to consider that the stories they’re hearing aren’t necessarily the whole truth. Here’s an example. I have a friend who married a woman he met off of Craigslist Casual Encounters. He tells people they met online, which is the truth. What he doesn’t tell people is that he got her pregnant first. So, if taken at face value, what we have is an example of two people who met under what some consider to be sketchy standards and who transcended the stigmas associated with the way they met. Dig just a little and you learn there’s more to the story.

Here’s another example. I met a guy online once. At first glance, his profile made him seem quite together. We exchanged numbers. He called me to talk – which immediately struck me as odd – despite the fact that I never even hinted at wanting a phone call. Immediately I feel as though this guy is trying too hard to impress me, hence the phone call instead of a text. In that conversation I learned that he went from one career that was quite respectable to two different ones, neither of which are remotely related to the subject of his Masters. Another red flag. The icing on the cake was that he lived in an apartment where he rented out a room to someone who was hardly ever there while he made the living area his sleeping space so he could pursue his new career as “an actor.” He went on and on about writing screenplays and the various sets he worked on. But then he said he wasn’t in the Union yet. Which, if you know anything about the union you know it doesn’t require much to get in. He was a man in his mid-forties who jumped from career to career, never establishing any real permanency in any of them, who lived outside his means. I got off the phone and never followed up with him.

Some might call me elitist or judgmental. Have at it. The reason why I don’t have any bad date horror stories and why  actually enjoy dating is because I employ critical thinking. I don’t take things at face value. There’s usually more to a person’s story than what they present online or in initial conversations. If you have enough life experience – not just dating experience – you learn how to challenge even the most basic assumptions and can determine what someone’s real story is. The reason for that is the people who are the time wasters or are disingenuous almost always reveal things about themselves without realizing it. All it takes is the ability to listen and an attention to detail. Get enough experience under your belt to establish a baseline of appropriate behavior. Use that baseline as a guide when sizing someone up that you’re considering dating.

If you find yourself wondering why someone would say or do something questionable or out of the ordinary, there’s a reason. That reason is usually a lack of self-awareness or social aptitude on their part. They do not see themselves as most people do or have bought into whatever image of themselves that they have created in their mind. Or they just lack the skills and tools that we all develop just by interacting with other people.

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