Lies Your Girlfriends Tell You About Men

Can you please write a post on this idea that “He got scared…” is the reason why two people aren’t together?  If I hear from one more girlfriend that such and such didn’t work out because “he got scared” I’m going to scream. Where is this coming from?! Who branded that phrase and handed it to women everywhere?  It’s dumb. – Kierstin

There is a long list of what I like to call Dating Myths that are perpetuated throughout the years by women. For the most part, these lies are repeated to spare feelings or serve to validate the delusions of the women saying them. Take an hour or so to cruise your Facebook page on any given day and you’ll stumble across several of these fictional explanations. Such as:

 

Maybe he got scared – At some point, some woman read a trashy romance novel or watched some sudsy afternoon serial and saw a male character cower when faced with true love. Things got too “real.” He wasn’t ready. He’s been hurt before. Lies, lies, lies..yeah. Men don’t shy away from a great relationship because things got too close for comfort. They do, however, back off when they feel the woman is getting too serious and they don’t return the interest. Men aren’t afraid of their feelings. What they fear is how women interpret their feelings and express their own.

He’s a player - We discussed this yesterday. Women throw around the word player to shame any man who refuses to commit to her. Mind you, in the majority of these cases, the guy all but came with a warning label with a skull and cross bones on it that declared him bad news.

He just wanted sex - If a man disappears after 3 dates and no booty, he just wanted sex. If he disappears after 3 dates and he did get laid, he just wanted sex. What you don’t hear about when these particular stories are told is how egregiously difficult/insufferable/humorless/all around unlikeable the woman was. Sure, there are some cases when the guy was never sincere and piled it on in the hopes of getting laid. But regardless of what your gal pals tell you, these guys are not as common as you think. More often than not, they just decide they aren’t interested.

Maybe he didn’t get your email/text/voicemail -He did. Trust me. He did. He wasn’t sick, out of town, busy at work or in a no signal area. He just wasn’t interested. Your friends want you to follow up again just to make sure you look totally obsessive and crazy. That way they can feel better about blowing up that one guy’s phone they met on Jdate that time.

He was intimidated by you - Nope. Not true in most cases. He just wasn’t interested in taking things further or seeing you again. You weren’t too smart for him or too successful or too assertive. He. just. wasn’t.interested.

If he was really interested in you, he would have contacted you – In theory, this makes sense. But let’s role play, shall we? Guy asks woman out, pays for everything, follows up next day and sets another date. Again, he pays for everything and she doesn’t even pretend to want to contribute. Kiss on the cheek good night. Turns down invite to go back to his place. He’s thinking she’s not all that interested. He moves on. Ball is in your court. Your friends will tell you not to call him. Why? Because that one time they did that it didn’t work for them. Or because they believe the guy should do all the heavy lifting until he proves he’s worthy. And that’s why they’re single. In these scenarios, the man is waiting for the woman to take some initiative.

When I met Mr. XYZ, he did everything right/Everything just clicked - Everything? Unlikely. It’s important to remember, as harsh as this might sound, there are just some people who don’t have a hell of a lot of options so they try harder. Oh, your handsome gentleman caller of 4 weeks brought you a book you mentioned in passing on your first date? How quaint and not at all awkward or unsettling. No no. That’s totally normal and healthy that you two established such a bond so quickly. Really. Whenever you hear these stories from women about how they snagged their guy, consider the source and consider their options.

He’s a coward/pussy/weak/lazy - More like he’s just not as invested or interested as you are, or possibly not at all. He’s not going to tell you that, because he either wishes to keep you in his break in case of emergency booty file or because he actually is a decent guy and doesn’t want to hurt your feelings. No, you don’t want him to be honest. I can almost guarantee you that the real reason he never asked you out again was because he wasn’t attracted to you enough or found you unpleasant or boring.

Never settle - Translation: Be alone like me so I have someone to hang out with or call and complain to because all my other friends have extricated me from their lives for being a downer. The women who cling to this one are the same ones who won’t go out with men because of the way they ordered food on a date. They’re uber-picky and have absolutely no right to be so. What’s funny is that men who never settle are called, you guessed it, players.

You can do better – Ehh…that’s debateable. If you could, you probably would. Maybe you could do better. You just don’t want to do better.

 

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Any Port In a Storm – The Argument for Sleeping With Married People

Im going to throw this topic at you …multiple part question….and see how you tackle it.  :)
BEING SINGLE ..and SLEEPING WITH MARRIED PEOPLE.

Setting aside religious beliefs, Is it right ?  Is it wrong ?  Do you believe in the whole karma aspect ?
If you’re SINGLE and consort with and sleep with married people, is it preventing you from having a REAL relationship of your own ??  (Keep in mind, I am FINE with being single and happy.  I’m 38 and would LIKE to be in a relationship with the RIGHT person, but until THAT person comes along, I will keep doing what I’m doing  :)    )

Here is My theory:
My whole outlook about married women is: If I WANT to enjoy fucking so n so …and she is making herself available to Me …WHY not? Whether it’s only once ..or once a month, just like a good dinner or fine wine,  I like to indulge. :) :)

I can’t sit there and worry about HER marriage and why she feels the need to stray etc. Im DEF NOT the type to break up a marriage and DEF never have ..in fact, I feel my sleeping with these women HELPS their marriage.  Why?  Because they are obviously lacking SOMETHING in their relationship (not necessarily the sex)  So, if I provide whatever that may be and they are more content as a WHOLE.  They now go home and are happier people.  Miserable people tend to bail and break up.  Content people tend to hang in there.

Women make LOTS of mistakes lol ..BUT when a woman KNOWS what she wants ..she knowsss what she wants. She may not be able to UNdo (or may not WANT to UNdo the mistake of picking the wrong guy to marry..due to kids, finances, etc.) BUT she CAN choose who to fuck that makes her feel how she WANTS to feel. Enter: Me. lol  (..and I dont necessarily mean make her feel JUST physically …because when it comes to me ..its more of a connection that has nothing to do WITH sex …but eventually leads TO sex :) :) )

I look forward to hearing your thoughts, Moxie !  :)
~H

Okay, Andrew Dice Lay. I’ll take this challenge. :)

My whole outlook about married women is: If I WANT to enjoy fucking so n so …and she is making herself available to Me …WHY not?

This might not be popular, but I agree that you are not responsible for someone else’s marriage. You’re not the one who took the vows, they are. Do I believe in karma? Yep. I sure do. Listen, we can excuse it all we like. But we know that we are partaking in something that, if discovered, could destroy a relationship and someone’s ability to ever fully trust again. So while you’re not responsible for her marriage, you are responsible for your participation and the potential fall out from that. We tell ourselves whatever we need to, because usually we’re doing it for our own selfish reasons.

I feel my sleeping with these women HELPS their marriage.  Why?  Because they are obviously lacking SOMETHING in their relationship (not necessarily the sex)

I disagree with this. I think there are plenty of people – men and women – out there who cheat on their spouses for no other reason than they can and they want to have sex with someone else. I believe that many people are capable of compartmentalizing various aspects of their relationships and their lives. Meaning, they can engage in a sexual relationship with someone who isn’t their spouse and not feel guilty about it and, in some cases, actually feel entitled to it. They do it strictly because they want to. Their spouse could be servicing them nightly. They could have the strongest of emotional bonds. There doesn’t have to be a lack of  anything to compel some people to cheat. Well, that’s not true. What their primary relationship lacks is variety. Funny thing, that marriage. Traditionally it doesn’t allow you to screw other people.
I do agree that in some cases infidelity is a sign of trouble. There’s a disconnect somewhere. There have been studies saying that taking a lover can actually help your relationship. Personally, I think it’s because the guilt from cheating actually makes people remember why they fell in love with that person in the first place. They become so afraid of losing that person that they do what they can to rectify the situation – be more attentive or communicative, etc.  I feel that a lot of people who cheat want to get caught just so they’re partner will finally acknowledge and discuss the problems in their relationship.
Miserable people tend to bail and break up.  Content people tend to hang in there.
Wow. I totally disagree. When it’s between their own personal misery and the potential misery of their children or possible financial ruin, you’d be surprised how many people stick it out or try to fix their marriage.  You have a really limited view and understanding of marriage. Miserable couple stay together all the time. They just find work arounds to help them get through it.

If you’re SINGLE and consort with and sleep with married people, is it preventing you from having a REAL relationship of your own ??  (Keep in mind, I am FINE with being single and happy.  I’m 38 and would LIKE to be in a relationship with the RIGHT person, but until THAT person comes along, I will keep doing what I’m doing  :)    )

I think it depends on why you’re engaging in that particular relationship. If you’re in it strictly for the sex, then I don’t think it will prevent you from meeting someone else. That is, unless the sex is so good that all other sex pales in comparison.  If you’re getting something out of these relationships other than physical gratification, then yes, I think engaging in such arrangements will get in the way. These arrangements are placebos of sorts. They keep us going and convince of things that aren’t necessarily real or true. But we engage in these no strings situations anyway, knowing they might hurt us or keep us further from our goal. We get lonely, we’re lacking the stimulation and attention that having a partner provides. I’m certainly not justifying those instances where we get involved with someone who is taken. But loneliness is a powerful motivator sometimes. It can encourage someone to do just about anything if they don’t have the proper coping skills in place at that moment.

Women make LOTS of mistakes lol ..BUT when a woman KNOWS what she wants ..she knowsss what she wants. She may not be able to UNdo (or may not WANT to UNdo the mistake of picking the wrong guy to marry..due to kids, finances, etc.) BUT she CAN choose who to fuck that makes her feel how she WANTS to feel. Enter: Me. lol (..and I dont necessarily mean make her feel JUST physically …because when it comes to me ..its more of a connection that has nothing to do WITH sex …but eventually leads TO sex :) :) )

Just from reading your letter, there seems to be something about being The Go To Guy for these women that works for you. You like the idea of being their stud. So much so that you believe what they tell you.

Here’s the thing about people who cheat:

They lie.

They will say whatever it is they think will keep their side dish providing whatever it is that they want. Sure, maybe you’re giving it to them in ways their husbands don’t. Maybe you’re more well endowed. Whatever. They’re appealing to your ego because they feel like they have to. They know that’s why you’re doing it. It’s not just about the sex for you, I don’t think. It’s about the attention, how these women make you feel.

I think you want to believe whatever it is that makes you feel special to these women. You tell yourself, or maybe believe them when they say, that there’s something broken about their marriage. That way you can feel like a Savior of sorts. It could very well be that these women are married to men who are never around, who don’t pay them attention, etc. What you’re not getting is that they’re reaching out to you because they’re hurt. Or bored. Or horny. You’re just a port in a storm. Not so romantic or sexy when you realize it could be any warm body they’re lying next to, is it?

So this connection you say you form with them? It’s likely all in your head. It has nothing to do with you and everything to do with them and their relationship with their husband.  You’re filler. They’re actions are reactions to how their husbands make them feel and not so much how you make them feel. To put it bluntly, you ain’t that special. In some cases, they don’t even realize that. Anything to keep them from feeling what they’re feeling or not feeling.

Don’t kid yourself in to think you’re providing something their husband isn’t. That might be the case sometimes, but not always.

That just might be how you justify doing it in the first place.

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Under One Roof

This was mentioned in a recent post and Ifeel like it got overshadowed by the bigger topic.

I keep hearing stories about people who dated for 3, 6, 9 months and then decided to live together. Which, to me, seems fast. But then everything has been sped up, hasn’t it? The courting process, the dating process, engagements. We’re not waiting around anymore. I can’t tell if that’s a good thing or not. It used to be that people moved in together because they believed the relationship would be permanent. It seems like now people move in together because it’s convenient. Maybe it will work out, maybe it won’t. Is this a sign we’re less commitment phobic than we were or just more lackadaisical? Or is it the economy. :)

For me, living together is a step towards long term commitment. But it seems like many people nowadays live together out of some sort of convenience. A few months ago we discussed the phenomenon of how couples in the middle of a divorce who live with their exes under the same roof.

Are more people living together simply for financial reasons? Because they both live bust lives and living together allows them to spend more time together? or as a trial run for something more long term?

What are you reasons for living with someone?

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