Is Having A Man The Only Thing You Care About?

Name: Princess Leia
Age: 25
State: TN
Question: How do I end up with a guy who only sees me as an option, for now? I met this incredible guy 5 years ago and he has told me he is not ready for a relationship because he is a musician but not the “typical” musician. We only talk a few times a week and see each other rarely. He is extremely attracted to me and I to him. And even though, he says he wants to see me soon all the time he doesn’t make plans to. I understand he is living it up right now and I give him his space because I don’t want to pressure him, but I really like him and I just want to know he will one day be mine. :)

Any feedback is appreciated!!

I’m not quite sure what, if anything, is going on between you two. It sounds to me like you’re a tad obsessed with a guy who, for the most part, isn’t all that interested in you.

Being attracted to someone and actually caring for them are two different things. This guy says he wants to see you but never makes the time. There’s your answer. Hon, you’re not even an option to this guy. You’re just some young girl with stars in her eyes.I don’t say that to hurt you. I say that to snap you out of this haze you appear to be in right now. He’s never going to be yours. You’re not giving him space. That’s your way of rationalizing the the situation. In order to give him space you’d actually have to be taking up space in his life. You’re not. This is kind of like when women go on about how they broke up with a guy when really they just finally took the hint that the guy wasn’t all that interested and left. Sure, you can say you broke up with him. But that’s not really what happened.

Here’s a question for you: don’t you want anything else out of life? I’m not sure what the hell is in the water in Tennessee that makes girls from there so, I don’t now, dependent on men and marriage and having a man. Maybe that’s all they groom your for down there. I don’t know. But I have yet to come across a twenty something girl from Tennessee/The South who didn’t seem to want much out of life other than a man.

Don’t you have any passions or interests? Why are you worried about a man being “yours” at 25 years old? You have everything ahead of you. Why throw all of that to the wayside just for a guy? A guy who can barely manage to see you, no less.

I guess what I hate to hear in the letter is how your life seems to revolve around this barely present male. To me that just seems wrong. He’s just a guy.  I sound crotchety and old, I know. But really, don’t you have a plan for yourself? If not, you should. Do you know why? Because in these times it’s really, really unwise to rely upon a relationship to fulfill you.

Let’s say you and Mr. Rock Star do get together. What then? Marriage? Kids? What? What’s your plan?  You can’t wait until you’re 35 years old to suddenly wake up and remember that you forgot to get a degree, or choose a career path, or develop an identity, or have kids. This is stuff you have to put into action now. You can’t sit back and wait for some semi-employed jug band leader to wake up and realize you’re The One. He has lots of Ones, hon. Lots. You are one of many, many Ones. You don’t see him trying to balance a career and a relationship, do you? No. He’s out there living his life. Not sure what kind of a life it is, but it’s his.

Where’s yours?

You want to be in a position where you get to choose which door to open and what path to take. That’s where he is right now. He’s unfettered and living his life. You don’t want to settle down because that’s what you’ve been told is what girls like you should do. You want to do it because you’ve had various experiences and now choose to sacrifice certain things. That way there’s less of a chance you’ll have regrets.

In 5 years you’re not going to even remember this guy. You’re not even going to be the same person. You’re going to change. At least I hope. The idea of some young girl latching on to a guy at your age makes me cringe because there’s a really good chance that is going to stunt her emotional development in crucial ways. Then she’ll end up divorced at 30 or 35 and complete, utterly lost.

The first thing you need to do is be sure you can take care of and support yourself. That’s what your twenties are for. You need to develop an identity and independence. Then you find the guy and settle down. Don’t get me wrong. If you’re life goal is to marry and have kids, that’s great. That’s as valid and important of a goal as wanting to get an MBA and run a business. However, in either case, you want to be sure that you can stand on your own first. The last thing you want is to tie everything – your life, your identity, your future – to someone who quite possibly won’t be around in the long run.

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READER RANT – Enough With The Alpha/Beta Man Talk

Stop the whole alpha beta talk. It’s gibberish.

The most dominant men in some ways are also submissive and passive in other ways. Many are insecure which makes them aggressive or dominant, because without the control, their insecurity would be laid bare. Some hide it better than others. The whole alpha beta crap applies to the animal world where males physically battle one another. Humans did not gain an over-complicated brain that sends spaceships to the plants which is an overkill for African survival based on physical selection. Our ancestors were women who were brilliant and chose brilliant men. Some artists, some explorers, some thinkers, etc. That gave us humans the strength. By choosing based on your alpha beta logic, you are choosing a monkey who has not evolved, as most alphas we see in social circles are unevolved uncouth monkeys to begin with.

So get over your categorization of men into two categories. You encounter passive-aggressive men hiding their passive aggressive nature early on because you are choosing the wrong men. Pick men who are secure within themselves, and aren’t trying to impress you with a facade they paint for you to see.

What that means is that instead of waiting for the man to do everything, you take initiative. If you like a man, ask him out. If you want a date to go a certain way, tell him about your preference early. He’s not inside your head. He does not know what you need or what you think, unless you tell him that or unless you want to start dating women. So don’t just sit around coyly and prettily and wait for your knight in shining armor or your prince to rescue you from yourself. If you want something in life, go for it! You pick the men who are secure and you will have a great life.

And one last time, stop calling men or women alpha or beta as it reflects your own immaturity in understanding people. – Megan

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Guest Post – Nature, Nurture or Just a Desire to Get Off?

Name: Horace
City: Brooklyn
State: NY
Age: 36
Story: First, this is not an endorsement of promiscuity, or even polyamory. It’s just a statement of fact. The more we understand what truly motivates and emotionally validates ourselves and each other, the better our relationships can be.

Men did not develop to be monogamous. It doesn’t matter how you feel about that, it’s a fact. That’s not to say that we can’t be monogamous, or that we can’t be happy being monogamous, but only that it goes against our every natural instinct.

We developed to be whores. But whores with a higher cause: for the sake of the species ;) While women developed to ensure that offspring thrived, men developed to ensure that offspring were created at all, and that we created as many as possible. We have not evolved beyond this. These are facts of evolution, regardless of exceptions and regardless of how we all may or may not have been culturized by either tradition or modern mores. Every man wants lots of mates.

At every man’s core is the drive for variety. You can’t refute it. It’s a fact of Natural Selection. Sexual variety ensures a vast and diverse (and therefore healthy) gene pool. It’s why we walk around at any given time with millions of sperm, and can “reload” in as soon as a few minutes.

Note that how we ultimately behave in modern relationships is irrelevant. That we’ve learned to deny our instincts via experience and culture is irrelevant. The woman who, intellectually, has decided that having kids is not for her probably still hears the tick of her biological clock. And the man who gives up sexual variety for a “modern relationship” with the love of his life still feels its loss.

And so the point: while we are capable of committing to one woman, it’s not in our nature. Without variety, we inevitably get sexually bored. Witness almost any modern relationship that’s more than a year old. No matter how much a man loves a woman, he will suffer from sexual boredom eventually. Those one or two exceptions you can dig up don’t disprove the rule. Evolutionary biology is a fact. Men get bored, and this tends to be why men have affairs. The more women we have sex with the more validated we feel as men. When we participate in monogamy, we lose that validation (though we might find it worth it).

Disclaimer: I only covered male sexuality because being a man it’s all I can directly speak to. I’m aware that women have their own needs, their own issues, and suffer their own relationship sacrifices. If you feel so inclined to write a companion note from the female perspective, please enlighten us all.

 

Alrighty. This topic tends to be polarizing around here. I’m not sure if I agree anymore that men or women are “hard wired” to be one way or the other. That seems a little too simplistic and feels like a got to excuse to justify bad behavior.

What I really wonder is if this idea that men struggle with monogamy and have such a hard time with it is something that men say to other men in the hopes of preventing them from committing or settling down.I happen to think that monogamy is difficult for us as a species. Both men and women struggle with it. I don’t doubt that men struggle with it to a larger degree, but I do wonder how much of that is because off all the stories they hear from other men.

As I was saying to a friend today, there seems to be something about the topic of sex, commitment, and marriage  that evokes a visceral and competitive reaction amongst men and women. Based on comments here, it feels like women either strive to prove that their man/past boyfriends were somehow different than all the others (thereby making the woman more special or assigning her a higher value than other women) or they just try and shame women  into believing that they are nothing but receptacles that men discard if the sex happens “too soon.” There doesn’t seem to be any happy medium.

If a man commits, he’s “giving in.” A traitor of sorts. Other men will joke around with them. Take, for example, Chris Rock’s response to Howard Stern when Stern admitted he was marrying for the second time.

“You’re going back to Shawshank?” Rock asks incredulously.

Meanwhile, Rock is frequently praising his wife and their relationship.

Take, for example, when a man tells his friends that he and his girlfriend got engaged or have decided to move in together. It couldn’t possibly be that the man actually wanted to get married. It couldn’t be that he genuinely loves this woman. He must have been doing it because his girlfriend was pressuring him or nagging him in some way. There’s just no way he had his own biological clock ticking. But that’s probably one of the reasons he’ll offer – as a joke! – when being jabbed by his male friends. He’ll put it on the woman because that appears to be a justifiable reason.

If a woman has sex with a guy during the dreaded “too soon” time frame, he had to have been “pressuring her.” Or he’s labeled “not relationship material” or something else negative and that’s why she slept with him. The opposite sex frequently seems to be the fall guy for our decisions.That’s what we tell our friends. That and that we waited 4 dates to have sex a guy we really only waited 2. Those are the same women who like to imply that the guy somehow coerced them in to having sex or that it was his idea. Total bullshit. I have no doubt that in at least half of those scenarios, the woman initiated it. But she’s afraid to tell her friends that because she fears she’ll lose some imaginary power that only exists in her head.

It feels, to me, that some men and women feel a need to shame their peers in to behaving in a certain way so that they can continue to believe whatever it is they need to believe that makes them different aka “better.”

What is that about? What’s with all the shame?

 

 

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