Why Do You REALLY Have Sex?

One of the About Me questions that OK Cupid asks is:

True or False: Orgasms are the most important part of sex.

My answer would be False.

Someone once asked me why I don’t seem to apply any rules or guidelines as to when I have sex with someone when I had admitted that I, like most women, don’t orgasm via intercourse. They didn’t understand the point of having sex if that was the case. I explained that people have sex for different reasons. For the most part, I think, men have sex to release the poison, as they say. But I honestly believe women have sex for a variety of reasons, and only some of them actually have to do with gratification or pleasure.

I was listening to a woman talk recently and she was going on about how some of her male friends all like to describe her as a gay man with a vagina. Because, like, she’s soooooooooo like a guy when it comes to sex and she’s omigod super sexual blah blah. Frankly, admissions like that just make me sigh and roll my eyes. I tend to think in the majority of those situations, where the woman believes she is all super hyper sexual “like a guy”, she’s basing that assumption not on how men actually are, but how she thinks they are. There are obviously men who will sleep with anything with a pulse and don’t care if they actually like the person or not and don’t get attached, etc. But only a few of those men are actually proud of that. And those men would be either be emotionally damaged assholes or average douchebags. So I’m not getting why having a similar sex drive to a man like that is something to brag about. Most men, especially those who bed women they wouldn’t be seen with in the light of day (and we’ve all done that), keep that information to them selves. For whatever reason, some women absolutely lose all ability to filter their thoughts and determine what should be said aloud and what should be kept to themselves.  When women say things like how they’re so like a guy and can have sex indiscriminately, they’re actually telling people more about themselves than they realize. With that one statement alone, they’re letting people know that their opinions and ideas of men are based upon the fact that they have abysmal taste in guys and have been pumped and dumped more times than they care to remember.

Back to the original topic…why we have sex. Like I said, I think men do it mostly to get off. But since it’s far more difficult for a woman to orgasm through intercourse alone, I have to believe that there’s something else in it for them. For men, an orgasm is pretty much guaranteed. That’s not the case for women. Which leads me to wonder what, other than an orgasm, is a woman’s pay off for having sex. My belief is that the main benefit for many (but certainly not all) women to having sex is attention and affection. The sex is a means to an end. Which would make sense since I think the women who go on about how they are so “like men” when it comes to sex are actually seeking attention when that say such things.  They think it makes them sound more attractive somehow. And it does, only that attraction doesn’t last after the guy climaxes. Then he’s likely to look at the woman as rather lonely and sad, because he knows why she said what she said: to get his attention.

Now, I don’t think it’s a bad thing to have sex when what you really want is attention or affection. Sometimes we eat when we’re depressed, but convince ourselves that we’re doing it out of hunger. The problem, in my eyes, is when people don’t know why they’re having sex.  We’ve thrown around the term “self-actualized” here a few times. Being self-actualized means having a cognitive understanding of what motivates us to do and say the things we do. There is nothing more dangerous, to me anyway, than someone who doesn’t understand what truly motivates them. They’re a liability to themselves and to other people. It’s difficult if not impossible to reason with them.

Not knowing why you’re having sex is what most often leads to inordinate expectations, hurt feelings and defensiveness.  In the moment, we ladies like to believe that we’re there with that man because we want to get off. But, and let’s be honest here, how often does that actually occur?

I guess what I don’t understand is why it’s apparently so shameful for some women to admit that we have sex for any other reason other than an orgasm. Sometimes we want to be touched, or we don’t want to feel alone, or we want to be dominated. And sometimes we just want to  feel connected to another human being. Something about the experience of being penetrated, like the initial rush of pain that we might feel upon that first tentative thrust, awakens something inside of us.

Or is it really just all about the orgasm?

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Any Port In a Storm – The Argument for Sleeping With Married People

Im going to throw this topic at you …multiple part question….and see how you tackle it.  :)
BEING SINGLE ..and SLEEPING WITH MARRIED PEOPLE.

Setting aside religious beliefs, Is it right ?  Is it wrong ?  Do you believe in the whole karma aspect ?
If you’re SINGLE and consort with and sleep with married people, is it preventing you from having a REAL relationship of your own ??  (Keep in mind, I am FINE with being single and happy.  I’m 38 and would LIKE to be in a relationship with the RIGHT person, but until THAT person comes along, I will keep doing what I’m doing  :)    )

Here is My theory:
My whole outlook about married women is: If I WANT to enjoy fucking so n so …and she is making herself available to Me …WHY not? Whether it’s only once ..or once a month, just like a good dinner or fine wine,  I like to indulge. :) :)

I can’t sit there and worry about HER marriage and why she feels the need to stray etc. Im DEF NOT the type to break up a marriage and DEF never have ..in fact, I feel my sleeping with these women HELPS their marriage.  Why?  Because they are obviously lacking SOMETHING in their relationship (not necessarily the sex)  So, if I provide whatever that may be and they are more content as a WHOLE.  They now go home and are happier people.  Miserable people tend to bail and break up.  Content people tend to hang in there.

Women make LOTS of mistakes lol ..BUT when a woman KNOWS what she wants ..she knowsss what she wants. She may not be able to UNdo (or may not WANT to UNdo the mistake of picking the wrong guy to marry..due to kids, finances, etc.) BUT she CAN choose who to fuck that makes her feel how she WANTS to feel. Enter: Me. lol  (..and I dont necessarily mean make her feel JUST physically …because when it comes to me ..its more of a connection that has nothing to do WITH sex …but eventually leads TO sex :) :) )

I look forward to hearing your thoughts, Moxie !  :)
~H

Okay, Andrew Dice Lay. I’ll take this challenge. :)

My whole outlook about married women is: If I WANT to enjoy fucking so n so …and she is making herself available to Me …WHY not?

This might not be popular, but I agree that you are not responsible for someone else’s marriage. You’re not the one who took the vows, they are. Do I believe in karma? Yep. I sure do. Listen, we can excuse it all we like. But we know that we are partaking in something that, if discovered, could destroy a relationship and someone’s ability to ever fully trust again. So while you’re not responsible for her marriage, you are responsible for your participation and the potential fall out from that. We tell ourselves whatever we need to, because usually we’re doing it for our own selfish reasons.

I feel my sleeping with these women HELPS their marriage.  Why?  Because they are obviously lacking SOMETHING in their relationship (not necessarily the sex)

I disagree with this. I think there are plenty of people – men and women – out there who cheat on their spouses for no other reason than they can and they want to have sex with someone else. I believe that many people are capable of compartmentalizing various aspects of their relationships and their lives. Meaning, they can engage in a sexual relationship with someone who isn’t their spouse and not feel guilty about it and, in some cases, actually feel entitled to it. They do it strictly because they want to. Their spouse could be servicing them nightly. They could have the strongest of emotional bonds. There doesn’t have to be a lack of  anything to compel some people to cheat. Well, that’s not true. What their primary relationship lacks is variety. Funny thing, that marriage. Traditionally it doesn’t allow you to screw other people.
I do agree that in some cases infidelity is a sign of trouble. There’s a disconnect somewhere. There have been studies saying that taking a lover can actually help your relationship. Personally, I think it’s because the guilt from cheating actually makes people remember why they fell in love with that person in the first place. They become so afraid of losing that person that they do what they can to rectify the situation – be more attentive or communicative, etc.  I feel that a lot of people who cheat want to get caught just so they’re partner will finally acknowledge and discuss the problems in their relationship.
Miserable people tend to bail and break up.  Content people tend to hang in there.
Wow. I totally disagree. When it’s between their own personal misery and the potential misery of their children or possible financial ruin, you’d be surprised how many people stick it out or try to fix their marriage.  You have a really limited view and understanding of marriage. Miserable couple stay together all the time. They just find work arounds to help them get through it.

If you’re SINGLE and consort with and sleep with married people, is it preventing you from having a REAL relationship of your own ??  (Keep in mind, I am FINE with being single and happy.  I’m 38 and would LIKE to be in a relationship with the RIGHT person, but until THAT person comes along, I will keep doing what I’m doing  :)    )

I think it depends on why you’re engaging in that particular relationship. If you’re in it strictly for the sex, then I don’t think it will prevent you from meeting someone else. That is, unless the sex is so good that all other sex pales in comparison.  If you’re getting something out of these relationships other than physical gratification, then yes, I think engaging in such arrangements will get in the way. These arrangements are placebos of sorts. They keep us going and convince of things that aren’t necessarily real or true. But we engage in these no strings situations anyway, knowing they might hurt us or keep us further from our goal. We get lonely, we’re lacking the stimulation and attention that having a partner provides. I’m certainly not justifying those instances where we get involved with someone who is taken. But loneliness is a powerful motivator sometimes. It can encourage someone to do just about anything if they don’t have the proper coping skills in place at that moment.

Women make LOTS of mistakes lol ..BUT when a woman KNOWS what she wants ..she knowsss what she wants. She may not be able to UNdo (or may not WANT to UNdo the mistake of picking the wrong guy to marry..due to kids, finances, etc.) BUT she CAN choose who to fuck that makes her feel how she WANTS to feel. Enter: Me. lol (..and I dont necessarily mean make her feel JUST physically …because when it comes to me ..its more of a connection that has nothing to do WITH sex …but eventually leads TO sex :) :) )

Just from reading your letter, there seems to be something about being The Go To Guy for these women that works for you. You like the idea of being their stud. So much so that you believe what they tell you.

Here’s the thing about people who cheat:

They lie.

They will say whatever it is they think will keep their side dish providing whatever it is that they want. Sure, maybe you’re giving it to them in ways their husbands don’t. Maybe you’re more well endowed. Whatever. They’re appealing to your ego because they feel like they have to. They know that’s why you’re doing it. It’s not just about the sex for you, I don’t think. It’s about the attention, how these women make you feel.

I think you want to believe whatever it is that makes you feel special to these women. You tell yourself, or maybe believe them when they say, that there’s something broken about their marriage. That way you can feel like a Savior of sorts. It could very well be that these women are married to men who are never around, who don’t pay them attention, etc. What you’re not getting is that they’re reaching out to you because they’re hurt. Or bored. Or horny. You’re just a port in a storm. Not so romantic or sexy when you realize it could be any warm body they’re lying next to, is it?

So this connection you say you form with them? It’s likely all in your head. It has nothing to do with you and everything to do with them and their relationship with their husband.  You’re filler. They’re actions are reactions to how their husbands make them feel and not so much how you make them feel. To put it bluntly, you ain’t that special. In some cases, they don’t even realize that. Anything to keep them from feeling what they’re feeling or not feeling.

Don’t kid yourself in to think you’re providing something their husband isn’t. That might be the case sometimes, but not always.

That just might be how you justify doing it in the first place.

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Under One Roof

This was mentioned in a recent post and Ifeel like it got overshadowed by the bigger topic.

I keep hearing stories about people who dated for 3, 6, 9 months and then decided to live together. Which, to me, seems fast. But then everything has been sped up, hasn’t it? The courting process, the dating process, engagements. We’re not waiting around anymore. I can’t tell if that’s a good thing or not. It used to be that people moved in together because they believed the relationship would be permanent. It seems like now people move in together because it’s convenient. Maybe it will work out, maybe it won’t. Is this a sign we’re less commitment phobic than we were or just more lackadaisical? Or is it the economy. :)

For me, living together is a step towards long term commitment. But it seems like many people nowadays live together out of some sort of convenience. A few months ago we discussed the phenomenon of how couples in the middle of a divorce who live with their exes under the same roof.

Are more people living together simply for financial reasons? Because they both live bust lives and living together allows them to spend more time together? or as a trial run for something more long term?

What are you reasons for living with someone?

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